Dutch people cycle an average of 2.6 kilometres each per day. If this pattern was replicated worldwide, the study suggests, annual global carbon emissions would drop by 686 million tonnes.

This mammoth figure exceeds the entire carbon footprint of most countries, including the UK, Canada, Saudi Arabia and Australia.

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[–] 43 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I'm from the Netherlands and use a bicycle for most of my daily commute. What isn't mentioned in the article: cycling is also dirt cheap. I bought a new bicycle 8 years ago for 500 euro, needed two times a repair of around 100 euro in total. That's like 3 months of owning a cheap car

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    500 Euro?!

    Luxury!

    When I lived in The Netherlands I would buy my bicycles second hand (well, more likely 3rd or 4th hand) from a bicycle shop at the train station for less than €100.

    It would've been cheaper to buy from the fishy looking guy near the Red Light District but those source their bicycles in "special" ways (and I don't mean "drag it up from the canal").

    Granted, this was maybe 2 decades ago, but still, €500 sounds like treating oneself with an extra nice brand new bicycle.

    Curiously I kept doing the same thing - buying my bicycles second hand from the bicycle shop - in both London and Berlin.

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    [–] 42 points 1 month ago (41 children)

    Having to only go as far as the Dutch for travel would be helpful for transitioning to bicycles. The moment American city distances ( hundreds of km) are applied, everyone scraps bikes. Buses and trains and cars and planes become the conversation - bikes aren't realistic for actual travel but nice for local commutes like groceries.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 month ago (26 children)

    Spreading out like that was a deliberate choice on the part of American city planners. It was an unnatural experiment that failed, and which can and should be undone.

    https://archive.strongtowns.org/journal/2015/1/7/americas-suburban-experiment

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    Are you suggesting time travel as a solution?

    Bike lines to commuter hubs for mass transit is the answer I'd go with, personally.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Cars have only existed for ~150 years, American cities are mostly older than that. Spreading out was a choice but it wasn’t because of cars.

    At one point in time 100 years ago you could take commuter rail systems all the way from NYC to Cincinnati. Those systems were removed 1950s and then the bus companies that removed them ‘mysteriously’ stopped having so many routes (many were owned by GM…).

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I mean... It's not like Dutch people use their bikes to go between cities (maybe sometimes, but they got buses and trains, too). The bikes are for local trips, which make up the vast majority of trips you'll do. It sure helps that cities in Europe are laid out in a less spacious manner, but that's not an unfixable situation for the US.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    The car desert that is suburbia can be split into micro cities (perhaps with bike friendly trains) with a few local food supplies and necessary services. Far from impossible with a cultural mind shift.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    But how much "actual travel" do you do? Most of my travel is urban, where cycling tends to be the fastest and most efficient option when you factor in traffic, parking dilemmas, etc.

    I'd say outside of 2-3 months in the winter, I make around 80% of trips by e-bike. The car is still there when I need it. I guess what I'm trying to say is it's not an either/or proposition.

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    [–] 32 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    People shit all over 15 minute cities. I miss it moving to Canada from the UK.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Why do they shit on them? I love them.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Because they think it's a conspiracy to eventually lock people down into their 15 minute block and not let them leave. Once 15 minute cities have been established, they're going to create another "plandemic" like COVID to initiate another lockdown.

    Not kidding. Source: my family

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don't even understand the logic behind that one. Although looking for logic might be optimistic.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's not something people reasoned their way towards, it's constructed propaganda from the Fox News or Prager U crowd (I forget which). They discovered a long time ago that if they want their audiences to hate something that they can just straight up lie about what it is.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Or - we could just say it’s illegal for these billionaire crybaby warcrime shitheads to fly like they do. Same emissions savings, and the world gets infinitely better.

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    [–] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Rebuild the whole of society, place affordable houses around work centers and we could.

    Cities need to be build around this concept

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It’s also fun. I always have a smile on my face when riding back from a grocery run or dinner out. Driving a car used to just make me aggravated.

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    [–] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    there is NO solution to climate change that doesn't involve a > 80% reduction in car use (and banning flying) Even the IPCC has said e-cars aren't an answer (they embed urban sprawl).

    There's is a persistent myth that we can't inconvenience anyone, which is patently nonsense as the destruction of civilisation from climate change is more than inconvenient.

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    [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    And of course it's your responsibility as opposed to the people designing infrastructure, the politicians approving their plans, and the corporations lobbying the latter

    /s

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I'm all for more biking. I will remind everyone that the Netherlands is almost completely, absolutely, flat. probably the most conducive place for biking in the entire world

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    [–] 15 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Would also make people much healthier.

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    [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    I always say my "dream car" is good public transit and walkable cities with good bike infrastructure.

    It might not work everywhere, but it's a nice goal and it would have the secondary effect in America of making most of us a lot healthier.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    The Dutch also have a very flat country

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    [–] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    If everybody cycled as much as the Dutch, global carbon emissions would drop by nearly 700 million tonnes per year.

    For context, Wikipedia puts annual global carbon emissions in 2023 at 39,024 million tonnes. That's a 2% slash. I suppose if you find a lot of these it could add up, but without a fix for the original problem of unregulated capital expansion it's just going to fill the void.

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    [–] 12 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    I got 54kms to get to work every day and no place to park that's safe between.

    I would be happy as a Clam to save my morning run and go to my car but it's not feasible unfortunately.

    Maybe stop putting the buck on people trying to make a living and give it to politicians who fly privately or massive shipping companies.

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    [–] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    but what's in it for the shareholders?

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    [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don't know how swearing at pedestrians walking in the bike lane more would help reduce my carbon emissions. Satisfying though.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Then build us cities like the dutch.

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