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[-] thanevim@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago

I wonder if the teams behind games like Civilization are taking notes on all this. I like to imagine some of these headlines were tossed around in board meetings a decade+ ago, and turned down cause they were "too outlandish, no one would actually do" them

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Backup excuses:

"This is the War Department not the Supplies Department."
"We had to avert a potentially disastrous Liberal Media panic."
"Hey, look over there - illegal Mexicans!"

So he listed the base locations in group chat that included Iran?

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 52 minutes ago
[-] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 11 points 4 hours ago

Weird that your adversaries would know to do this after letting our adversaries access your top secret files

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Iran didn't have to pull any secret intelligence here. The bases where always sitting ducks. Hegseth's biggest mistake was falling for the propaganda. The modern US military is a decorative facade set up to enrich contractors and keep otherwise troublesome youth's off the streets, under no circumstances should it ever be used to fight wars.

[-] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

And I don't doubt that the USA could spin themselves up as the most powerful military force again, really quickly... But they haven't. They are engaging in an arms length war with the attitude of "everything is fine, nothing has changed"

[-] subverted_per@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

In order to do that you have to have the ability to manufacture your weapons entirely at home, at scale. We dont just not do that, we actively made it bureacratically impossible to do in order to allow a small group of very wealthy businesses have exclusive manufacuring rights to thse very advanced weapon systems. Hell some of our best most powerful weapons are a subscription service.

[-] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago

This is so stupid. This fucking guy never should have been anywhere near in charge. Cant someone convince him to get in a shoddy submarine near the titantic?

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 103 points 8 hours ago

Even worse, apparently only a single base had all the supplies for it. That was a single point of failure that, when struck, caused the failure of the entire supply mission.

You'd think the Navy would be a little better prepared. Here I thought redundancy was an important part of military conduct and operations.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 hours ago

I'm sure the original navy would have been, but they fired everyone and replaced them with yes men.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 89 points 8 hours ago

Prior to this clown show, the Navy was. Logistics has been THE biggest thing about the US military that has set it apart from the rest of the world, for the last 80+ years.

That's gone down the shitter with these buffoons in charge. That's what happens when you put an alcoholic TV host in charge of the military.

[-] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 hours ago

The US military as a whole was basically a logistics company that shot people. That was the main thing that kept the United States such a high rate military power.

Then they replaced a General who understood that with a Former Major who thinks the Army runs on testosterone and crusader rhetoric and now everyone's surprised everything has gone to shit?

[-] Carl@anarchist.nexus 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yeah, the logistics behind the military were honestly staggering. There was an old joke about how the US military could get a fully operational (built, supplied, and staffed with trained crew) McDonalds anywhere in the planet within 48 hours. Except that it wasn’t really a joke. If the military wanted to, they probably could.

The sheer scale behind the military’s logistics was so vast that people have trouble comprehending it. The same way people have trouble wrapping their mind around how big a billion of something is. Conceptually they may know how big it is, but actually putting it into practice is too large for any one person to truly comprehend. It’s the old “a million seconds is 11 days, a billion seconds is almost 32 years” problem, where the human brain simply isn’t designed to comprehend the sheer scale of something that large in a realistic way. Every comparison we make ends up with people devolving back into concepts in order to keep track of it in their mind.

And we’ve seen all of it begin to unravel in only a few years, because the POTUS has surrounded himself by Yes Men instead of competent leaders. It’s the same way so many despots and dictators have historically been brought low… They surround themselves in Yes Men, and nobody wants to be the one to break the bad news. So the leader is kept blissfully ignorant, while everything crumbles around them. And then they’re shocked when they have angry mobs and/or a coup d’état.

[-] Forester@pawb.social 1 points 14 minutes ago

I'm not trying to be overly pedantic but we deploy Burger Kings from. AC-130s. Not Mc trash

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

It wasn't a joke. During the initial invasion of Afghanistan, one of the first pieces of infrastructure was a self-contained Burger King truck. Airdropped in on a C-130.

Even way back, one of the biggest things during the Pacific Theater in WWII was the fact that the US had three ships dedicated just to transporting frozen and refrigerated foods, so that the troops had fresh food. The ships colloquially became known as ice cream barges because they had the capability to make a ton of ice cream. The Americans in the Pacific were eating fresh meat and ice cream, while the Japanese soldiers were eating shitty rations. It was a major morale killer for the Imperial Japanese.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Dammit, you dropped the two pieces of trivia I wanted to! hehe

The only other one I can think of is also from WWII, where the Germans became aware that Americans were sending things like birthday cakes to their soldiers - that would arrive before spoiling, indicating how good the supply chain was, and no only for weapons, but enough room for personal items like that.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 2 points 9 minutes ago

Yeah that was a huge part of it.

What modern Republicans would call a “waste” was a major form of power projection.

It was a signal. “We are so strong that we can send our troops shit like cake to keep them happy and fed. You’re eating slop and wearing torn boots. We’ve already won.”

Not only did it boost American troops morale, but it crushed the enemy morale.

An enemy that feels they’ve already lost because of the massive machine coming towards them is easier to beat than a motivated enemy that can smell the incompetence from a mile away.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

It's like the old anecdote about Kruschev seeing full grocery stores and realizing how far the US was ahead.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

It’s all been propaganda lies. The whole time. The US military has lost every single engagement since world war 2. Every single one.

[-] iknewitwhenisawit@fedinsfw.app 2 points 1 hour ago

Panama? Granada?!?

Sorry, just.... no.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 8 hours ago

What’s the quote? Amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics?

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 38 points 7 hours ago

There's that one and "Tactics win battles, logistics wins wars".

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

As long as you keep people fed, clothed and moderately comfortable, they'll fight anyone, anywhere for you.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

We’re certainly paying for redundancy. If we’re not getting it then we should halve the budget.

[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

It's a good thing that the rape and murder filled terrorists are incompetent.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 hours ago

Just watch Hegseth preen and pour for the camera and it's pretty clear he belongs as an idol singer or stripper.

[-] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 32 points 8 hours ago

He has redundancy of course, plan B (Bacardi), plan C (Captain Morgan)...

[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago

D: Daiquiri

E: Ever-clear

F: Fireball

G: Goldschläger

H: High Noon

[-] Gerald@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 hours ago

J: Jägermeister

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

Critical support.

[-] skunk@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 hours ago

Extremely critical support to Pete Hegseth

This... CAN'T be true can it? If so it's inexcusable.

[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

They should give him a medal for winning the war for Iran.

[-] thenoirwolfess@fedinsfw.app 2 points 7 hours ago
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