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[–] 171 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Or maybe just band together and fight for more time off for everyone so you aren't at the will of a few billionaires obsessed with you as slave labor?

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  • [–] 63 points 1 month ago (29 children)

    Oh yeah... Parenthood.... Real easy. We're doing it for the work breaks.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    This tweet is not advocating for removing the breaks for parents, it's advocating for also giving the same breaks to everyone. Same as with smoke breaks.

    It's healthy to take small breaks every once in a while, and every worker should have access to them. You shouldn't need to have a kid or an addiction to enjoy your breaks.

    Hell, I myself take smoke breaks and I have never smoked.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago* (8 children)

    its not even work "breaks". Work was always easier than dealing woth the kid. If youre getting called out of work, sometging is obviously not gone to plan, and dealing with that adds more stress. Id rather just be unbothered at work.

    This shaming shit is garbage. second or third time ive seen this childfree comm come up, this place is so lame. be childfree, do it. I was supposed to myself, but blaming parents and shit stirring is so fuckin stupid. This some reddit level garbage.

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    [–] 57 points 1 month ago (46 children)

    So I've seen in a previous job where someone was complaining that a guy was leaving at 4pm to get his kid and how it was unfair just because he had a child.

    What that person bitching and moaning didn't see was that the parent was getting into work MUCH earlier than him, and would regularly log back on when getting home.

    Sure there are some parents who take the piss, but there are also plenty of parents that put the hours in and more, they just need a little flexibility because childcare and the associated costs are a fucking joke and society isn't set up to enable single income families.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Oh that shit pissed me off so bad and smokers... I quit a job because they were going to move me across the country to fill a roll they could find a local because I was the single guy. I said no and they said I have "no choice" bad move, I have a choice.

    Then they had 2 spots to fill, fucking dummies.

    That "boss" went from senior director to basic manager in the next year for shit like this. Fuck you Adam.

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    [–] 51 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Unpopular opinion here (I am also a childfree person)

    As much as I don't want them, kids are the future of every society and we all suffer the consequences of a general societal parental inadequacy (the kids today will be our doctors, carers, drivers, etc)

    So, while some places take it to a ridiculous extreme and act as if parents are just completely free of any duties, I do think that generally workers who have children, especially small children, should get certain benefits and have more relaxed hours to give them the space to be proper parents.

    Of course in an ideal society all of us would have a significant amount of free time and we wouldn't need to bother with making any special treatment for parents because we would all have the time we need to do the things we want and if those things are being parents then parents will have the time to both be parents and also do some of the other things they want. Currently we don't live in that society and work is almost entirely consuming of our free time.

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    [–] 47 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Before going that far, workers should consider explaining less. If you tell people why you can't work overtime, they will trivialize your outside commitments. If you "have another commitment" then they can't argue with the substance.

    Of course your boss could still threaten to fire you, if it's the US with shitty labor law. But be smart, and stop providing the argumentative material to them.

    Similarly, just don't answer the phone or text messages on your day off. Don't friend your boss on social media... If that's your baseline, again, they have less information to use against you, and all of the pointless arguments simply stop happening.

    This is all surprisingly easy to do if you plan it out in advance. The key point is that your boss is not your friend and the company is not your family.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Best thing my job ever did for me was give me a phone stiped to get a dedicated work phone. I work in government and it allows me to log into work systems without mixing with my personal stuff, allows me to work remote more easily, and keeps my main personal phone from being subject to Open Records requests.

    But what it also means is I can leave the phone at the house and forget work when I'm off the clock. With previous jobs I couldn't help myself and I'd read emails and shit I got over the weekend. Now I just turn off the work phone and enjoy my time off.

    And if there's a legit emergency that needs my attention, they do have my personal cell number, but simply having it as a separate number keeps them from sending bullshit to it.

    Also, it's handy for my boss to be able to send me a short Teams message or something they want me to take care of first thing Monday knowing that they're not interrupting my weekend.

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    [–] 38 points 1 month ago (28 children)

    Kids are understandable. What (mildly) annoys me is the free pass for smoke breaks.

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    [–] 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    When you adopt a cat, you should be entitled to paid caternity leave.

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    [–] 19 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    I try to be very open and forgiving, as it's the same as what if I have a sick parent or spouse that I need to take care of. Same thing.

    HOWEVER. I have a WFH job that is very heads down and forgiving on time, and most days we have 1, count it ONE meeting that lasts 15 minutes. A daily standup. I have coworkers with kids who miss it DAILY, usually because of childcare. How, how do you miss our ONE meeting? If your kids are at home then how do I trust that you are actually working most of the day if you can't set aside 15 minutes daily? If your kids need to be dropped off then I'm sorry but how does it take that exact 15 minute period every day? Can't drop them off 15 minutes earlier or later? (And yes, we've adjusted our daily times, but then after a month or so it starts happening again). To be fair I think they're just blaming the childcare.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    If your kids need to be dropped off then I'm sorry but how does it take that exact 15 minute period every day? Can't drop them off 15 minutes earlier or later?

    The school drop off windows are very strick. They usually cant legally let the children in before a certain time, and if theyre late, then the they get tardies and discipline as theyre missing class. My kids need to be dropped off between 7:45 and 7:55. I have to account for car line. And schools 20 minutes away. If i worked from home, id be spending basically 50 minutes to drop my kids off.

    And i only have 1 school to drop off at. Multiple kids of varying ages can easily have multiple schools with varying start times. And not all districts and locations within those districts have busses.

    This is what has happened because families need 2 workings parents to function now. In the old times when 1 working parent made enough money to support a family, the other parent would be supporting the kids. We're basically asking parents with kids to work 3 full time jobs now

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    [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    I pretend to be an alcoholic so I can act like an ass at the work parties. I don't even drink.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    People love to argue about whether kids count as work and whether they're voluntary but workers get old and retire. They need to be replaced. In our society we don't subsidize this process, even though social reproduction is part of the overall capitalist mode of production. They've convinced you to provide a replacement labor force for them and they are not paying you for your labor. And then they even get you to feel bad about it.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Everyone I work with has kids, so... We're all in the same boat?

    Also, leaving the office whenever? You know that shit is falling under sick time or people are skipping lunches to have two hours off one day.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    I remmeber reading a story about a lady or a dude who did this same thing.

    They got elaborste with it too. They made it look like one of their nephews were actually their own child loool!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Do you have to provide proof you had a child?

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    [–] 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I don't know what kind of job this person has, but this strikes me as the least empathetic statement a person could make. Yes, I have young children, and I learned that I knew nothing about parenting before having kids.

    I'm pretty sure we sure be fighting a class war instead

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