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[–] 89 points 2 months ago (22 children)

So many useful features lost in service to slim and waterproof theoretically. Replaceable batteries, external storage, 3.5mm jack...

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  • [–] 89 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    These are all lies made by tech companies to spend less on engineering and production costs while selling products at the same (or higher) price.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yep I had a waterproof android 2.3 phone that had a removable battery, microSD slot, headphone jack, and FM radio all included. There were seals around the battery door-flap and rubber plugs for the USB and headphone jacks to keep water out. Another phone I had had all those features minus the FM radio, but it had an IR blaster to control TVs and shit. Smartphones used to be more serious multi-tools, and now they're just fancy computer tablets with cameras.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Sony literally has one of the most waterproof phones.

    It is IP68 AND IP 65 rated (submersion and jets) which pretty much no other phones have.

    Headphone jack and SD card.

    It is a complete lie for profit. Just like getting rid of chargers without lowering the price.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Which one is that? If it's not bloated up with crapware it sounds like one on a future considerations list.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Their Xperia line all have microSD + jack + good front speakers (so no cutout/notch). Their software is generally clean (nothing like the Samsung, Xiaomi, etc. with loads of bloat), and many of their devices support LineageOS (like the Xperia 1 series up to V and the Xperia 10 VII)

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    My phone is as thin as I'm comfortable with it being, I have grabbed a snorkel and watched movies underwater, and it takes an sdcard.

    It also has a headphone jack, but I'm not comfy using that underwater and had to use BT headphones for that.

    You didn't sacrifice for shit. It was stolen from you. Voting with your wallet isn't a real option.

    So what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about all the comforts of modernity being stolen from you as its weight and terror and heat come crashing down? You can't go back. There is no back, not with the planet like this. Not that you survive. What are you gonna do about it?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Negative. It was all bullshit to upscale with phones. Remove an sd slot that takes up virtually no space and then charge an extra $300 for a phone with more space when the storage chip in the phone costs $20. Same for the headphone jack. Now people are buying branded earbuds every few years for hundreds of dollars. phone storage sizes haven't increased for the past like 8 years because they want you forced into paying for cloud storage.

    I have a phone right now from China with a headphone jack, cooling fan, and 1 tb storage, and it was less than a thousand bucks. It's waterproof and plenty slim with a 7500mah battery.

    All the shitty things about Samsung and apple.. all the things they removed were all so they could turn around and sell you more. It has nothing to do with size constraints or waterproofing.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    what phone do you have with a cooling fan?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Nubia Red Magic 11pro.
    Android $1000. 1TB hard drive, 7500mah battery, 24GB of the fastest ram in any phone, best processor\apu of any android, built in cooling fan, and (mainly a gimmick, but looks cool) liquid cooling for the battery, invisible front camera, ir blaster to control TVs, headphone jack, and two touch buttons on top for gaming.

    Phone is really awesome.

    Bad parts are a locked bootloader, only 2 or 3 years of updates, and the only carrier that it works well with is t mobile, due to missing frequency bands other carriers use, and the cameras aren't as good as any flagship phones from the last several years.

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    [–] 58 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Losing the microSD card slot has put me off of buying flagship devices.

    My 6 year old phone does more than the modern ones.

    I want to want a new phone. I just don't.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Fairphone. No headphone jack, but at least a microSD card slot.

    I used to say Sony but fuck them. They still have both though.

    Motorola also has both on many models.

    No interesting phones. Nowadays the most interesting phones are the ones you can secure and degoogle the most (too bad pixels have no SD card, no headphone jack, and tiny storage)

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    There are a number of niche brands out there that still cater to us old farts. Check out Ulefone, Oukitel, Unihertz, Doogee, iiif150, etc. Each company has normal models, but they all also dabble in unusual experimental models as well, some that are ultra small, other that have blackberry style keypads, or feature projectors, floodlights, uhf radios, thermal cameras, multiple screens, etc etc.

    Most models still retain SD card slots, headphone jacks, some still have IR emitters and other older i/o as well.

    They're all Chinese companies though, funny how all the consumer tech innovation is happening in communist countries.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I've since upgraded with a NAS - if something happens to my phone everything is synced to my server anyway, so the only real loss is the hardware. Kind of like folk that subscribe to a cloud service. My phone has 512GB of storage to toy with, so I'm really not missing the microSD cards.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    Many of you will never know the freedom of a micro SD, headphone jack and tool less user-swappable battery. You'd set out for a day's adventure prepared and just wouldn't think about your phone at all. You'd use it as a tool as needed, without hesitation. Casually carrying all your music, some movies if trapped somewhere, effectively unlimited stotage space and zero dongles. Bluetooth headphones as default, wired earbuds as backup and you could move from zero to 100% battery in the 23 seconds it took to remove phone back and swap a fresh battery. And technically all things needed as "backup" fit in a pocket or purse.

    It was perfect and they broke it to drive cloud storage, bluetooth headphone sales and to increase "anxiety" that your phone is old/failing as you get storage full notifications and the same old battery runs thousands of cycles without simple replacement path and holds charge less and less.

    Fuck Apple and Apple devotees.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah but all the apple users and idiot kids told me that nobody uses SD cards, just use the cloud!

    Apparently the normies love paying tons of extra money for less space and less privacy and security, not to mention less access to your data should your network drop.

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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago*

    They shrunk massive storage down to a tiny usable convenient size and then said, okay we're not going to use it anymore. fuck the cloud

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Micro sd cards aren't all that cheap right now either .

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Still WAY cheaper than phone manufacturer upgrades though.

    For example, on the Pixel 10 Pro it'll cost you $120 to add 256 GB of storage (going from the 256 GB option to 512 GB option), and on the iPhone 17 it'll cost you $200 for the same jump.

    A name-brand Sandisk 256 GB micro SD card costs about 60 bucks right now, or anywhere from half to less than third of the upgrade price. You could buy a 1 TERABYTE Micro SD card from Sandisk for less than Apple charges for 256 GB, and even if the $120 price from Google was your limit, you could still buy 512 GB of additional storage and have money left over.

    And of course as someone else already mentioned, you don't have to get rid of your old storage media when you swap phones if it's on a portable Micro SD card, so you don't have to pay more money for storage every single time you get a new phone. Not only is it cheaper on its own, but it's also a less frequent purchase.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The onboard storage should be faster, which is obviously why it costs more, but I'm with you just give me some bulk cheap bulk storage for videos, photos and stuff

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    [–] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    There really is a place for phones having slower, but cheaper and bigger storage. Some photos or your music really do not need that fast speeds.

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    [–] 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    ...microSD cards went away? Honestly didn't know that, but at the same time I'm mostly using repaired +8yo tech and doing just fine

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Low read speeds and saving to cloud has driven consumer's demand down.

    And big Tech's greed took over, charging multiple times the cost for phones with bigger saving space and removing microSD so you have no option.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    You're a lot more optimistic about the motives than I am.

    I'm convinced big tech being able to make more money selling you other storage options instead of allowing you to just expand it yourself with a much cheaper SD card is at least 90 percent of why sd cards stopped being a thing on phones.

    Cloud storage will have had some effect on demand but read/write speeds are not a variable if you just store a bunch of music and photo's on the SD card. Read write speeds to the cloud are also trash compared to internal storage.

    Same story with the headphone jack. It's not that people didn't use it, there was definately still an audience for it and it's a part that costs pennies. But axing it boosts the sale of Bluetooth gear.

    It's not a coincidence that Apple and Samsung led the charge here, they sell tons of accessoires.

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    [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Lmao. Last year I bought a 512GB Kingston canvas go plus for like 40 dollars, now it's 105, shit's fucked everywhere.

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    [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The storage crisis doesn't only affect built-in storage but also external one. The only thing different might be that with a memory card you kinda have the choice of what class of card to get.

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    [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Like that's ever going to happen.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    256 GB SD card already costs like a new phone.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    Looks like android authority watched "the infographics show" on YouTube yesterday.

    *Edit: video I'm referencing- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEiOV6JL2bg

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    [–] 4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    If you get your phone from a carrier, you're going to get the kind of phone they want. Android or Apple.

    My phone was new last year and runs modern android. It has a headphone jack, SD card slot, and even FM radio. It also has enough battery to last 10 days of moderately heavy use. Niche phones exist if you look outside what's sold by carriers.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    See this is my issue with privacy ROMS is that they're not always built alongside pro-consumer, right to repair friendly hardware. They're often built for flagship phones, which has its advantages, but leaves the hardware experience locked down.

    I really am so excited for functioning Linux phones. I LOVE GrapheneOS, but mobile Linux is being built around those ease of repair and tinkering phones more often .

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    [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    When the trucklefuck have our need ever mattered?

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  • My next phone is going to be a clamshell. I barely use mine for anything but phone calls and texts anymore. The only reason I even have a smartphone now is because my school switched away from sms for login security and the app requires Android or iOS.

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