Weird how we can have such differing views, as this is exactly what I expected. It's been a long time coming. Not much hope either, as the neoliberals will soon hand the reigns to fascists. This is all just prep.

While a union of European peoples/interests would be a very cool 'prevent another world war' thing to have:

Democracy does not occur at the voting booth. That's the killing floor, where its butchered, it's skin is peeled off, and stapled over tyranny.

Real democracy is not about choosing leaders to dominate you, but making every voice heard, working shit out among one another, talking to each other, and making decisions with others in mind. Assessing and considering the opinions of others. What we are doing right now, arguing with shit heads and bots on the internet, is the closest thing most of us have ever done to democracy.

Probably incompatible with capitalism and its ethos of exploitation.

And if we don't object, if we don't fight back against what does not consider us or our interests, if we do not refuse to obey and punish them for imposing shit on us; we are effectively supporting tyranny. We are making a philosophical argument in favor of it.

Her husband...

That group is ... Yup from the USA.