Immigration and Customs Enforcement has made yet another arrest at a New York City immigration court, despite a May ruling from a federal judge that broadly blocked such detentions.

U.S. District Judge Kevin Castel, a George W. Bush appointee, ruled May 18 that ICE never had the legal justification to make these arrests. His order, which applied to immigration courts in Manhattan, kneecapped the agency’s controversial strategy of detaining people as they arrived for mandatory immigration hearings.

Despite that, ICE has made at least six arrests in Manhattan immigration courts since Castel issued his order. The latest arrest came on Thursday, when agents detained Bronx resident Matar Ndiaye while he was “dutifully attending an immigration court hearing for his asylum claim,” according to court filings.

Contempt charges?

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[–] 108 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Police providing security at the courts should be arresting those ice agents for kidnapping since they don't have jurisdiction, but we all know why they don't.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I wonder what it feels to work so hard thru the police academy and under so much accountability, but then become subservient to a bunch of ex-bounty hunters with 2 weeks training and no accountability.

    I'd be pissed off if I was a policeman.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    It feels good when what you want as a police man is stifled by "accountability", but you get to see the ice agents doing it with impunity. They're not pissed, they talk about how awesome it is in the locker room.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    If they did that, they'd be charged with terrorism or something and get 100 years in the slammer.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    We need to stop making up “if they did” scenarios and just do it. Appeasement has never made anything better against fascists.

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  • [–] 68 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Hmm, an unaccountable paramilitary force that flouts the law without consequences? It's getting really really fascist in this motherfucker.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    And people are still doing nothing about it, and no, protests are not doing something about it

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    What do you want to be done? The smart but feels bad move is to keep taking notes and keep taking names. The regime won't last forever and a blue wave is already coming.

    For now, the thing being done will be more court fights between state and federal (aka notekeeping).

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  • [–] 55 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Why call them arrests? These are kidnappings.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Because they're legally officers performing arrests in the fascist USA.

    For the newspapers of the USA to call them kidnappings would be libel.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago*

    The first couple of paragraphs of the article explain why these are not legal arrests. ICE are legally forbidden from doing this, so their actions should legally be treated the same as if anyone else just grabbed people and imprisoned them.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The media is not on our side. They can't even put "illegal" in the title; they just soften it with "despite court orders..."

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, and yet here are commenters whining that the media should step up and solve their fascism problem with accurate reporting.

    The media won't solve it, the courts won't solve it, voting won't solve it, "someone else" won't solve it.

    The US citizens acting in coordinated industrial strikes is all that will solve it currently, yet they don't. Another year or so and even that won't solve it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Well, there are quite a few high profile strikes. The big issues are

    1. They are not coordinated, because the groups don't really talk to each other
    2. The government as of now isn't exact one who will give a fuck about Mos worker strikes and will probably just throw the national guard at the problem (illegally)
    3. If we're being real, some people aren't yurt enough and still support this clownshow. Still a lot of "I got mine" attitude out there holding everything back.

    It'll be a few years for sure. But I can definitely see some people fighting. Even if it's not enough.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    This is all theater. The courts will hem and haw about rights and rule of law but ultimately wont do jack shit all to cement the SS...sorry ICEs position above the law and ability to take who ever when ever they want from where ever.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You're not wrong. The court was complicit as they can declare the "arrests" illegal.

    Minor correction, these aren't the SS they are the SA. This is why we need to fight now, they're not yet organized enough to be the SS, they're still forming. We still have a chance to create enough political pressure to disband them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I tend to use the SS stamp because most people I talk to about this stare at you blankly when you say SA. Everyone knows who the SS were. You are right though here on Lemmy I should have made the distinction. Or you could also say potato potato lol

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    2 years down the line and they'll issue the third final warning to stop doing illegal things, which the appeals court will immediately stay because a few months without optimal inductions into the concentration camps is considered an irreversible harm.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Wonder what Mamdani has to say about this? Or if he can/will do anything about it?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Honestly, given how he capitulated to the NYPD, I’d imagine he can’t do much. I somehow doubt he would be allowed.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    What do you mean by this? First I’m hearing of it

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    He'd campaigned on reining in the NYPD, but as soon as he was elected he specifically started praising them and hasn't done anything to curb some of the... well, more problematic elements. It is assumed that they threatened him or something, because him doing nothing about them goes against his supposed worldview and what he campaigned on. It's very well possible that the realities of being in office or just that his ability to affect things as Mayor isn't as powerful or robust as he'd thought. In any case, it's one of the few elements of his campaign he's gone back on.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Hard to say. Mamdami has a lot of work to do and reforming the NYPD during these times is one of the larger tasks. That might be more for something during his 2nd term if he gets that far.

    But I wouldn't be surprised if he got a lot of flak internally over these issues once he got in.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    And what's going to be done about it?

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