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[–] [B] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The English line-up was decided by a FA committee. Every player was nominated for a certain position and had to play this position.

The Hungarian line-up was decided by their coach. Especially their forwards didn´t care about positions.

You can see why Hungary won and England was very confused the whole game.

Extra info: The statistic was around 35:5 shots on goal for Hungary.

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    [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    Always felt bad for Gil Merrick. Very good goalkeeper by all accounts, one of the Birmingham City all time great players and managers, servant of the club for decades. Is known around the world for conceding 11 to Hungary when it probably wasn't his fault.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (23 children)

    In football its is a widespread belief that in order to be remembered you need to win silverware.

    Hungary of that time is one of the exceptions to that rule.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    I love how English can confuse someone if they're not well-conversant with the language.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    How do you mean? Did i say something wrong

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (9 children)

    Nonsense. Hungary '54 and Netherlands '74 lost in final, but are still remembered fondly.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    It’s hardly “nonsense”. OP said that Hungary are one of the exceptions. There’s not that many teams who didn’t win a tournament who end up remembered to that extent.

    Hungary are unusual too in that they only had a brief period with those players. If they were from a different country and stayed together as a group they would have had another go in 1958.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    This Hungary team only had 1 major tournament. Hungary withdrew from the 1950 WC, afaik it was because of the 1952 Olympics (which they won and I have no idea how highly it was regarded back then), then they played in the 1954 WC (there were no Euros at the time, it only started in 1960), and then the 1956 revolution happened.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    Yes that’s what I was referring to in my post. It was a brief period where they were the best.

    The Olympics was regarded as relatively important then. Not to everyone but much more than now. It’s why the game against England had added prestige as they were arriving as Olympic champions.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Totally disagree, Hungary '54 and Netherlands '74 are remembered even though they didn't win silverware IMO

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    [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Ist’s the match of the century the 1970 WC semi final match Germany against Italy ?

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (12 children)

    What would have been if the Communists didnt go rampant. Hungary might have been an elite team till today.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    If anything communism had a focus on competing at a global level in sports hence why the Soviet Union got to a semifinal, Poland got to two (or three can't remember) and czechoslovakia even won the euros.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    they were still a top team well into the seventies (just checked, and i think the first time they dropped out of the Elo top 10 post-WW2 was 1974).

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    [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (9 children)

    To this day we hold "memorials" for the 3:6 but how come 7:1 doesn't get the same treatment?

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (7 children)

    Because that was the first time England lost a game at home. The second time it happened they already knew England was bad and Hungary was very good.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Actually Ireland was the first team to beat England at home. September 1949. 2-0 at Goodison Park.

    Doesn't quite fit the narrative that they could only be beaten by the exotic Mighty Magyars though.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    Scotland first beat England in 1877 and were the first team to beat them at Wembley. Wales and Ireland (original Ireland football team for the entire island) both beat England multiple times in England before 1953 but Hungary were the first continental European team to beat England in England which is why it's so well known.

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    [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    When I was in Budapest for the EL final I saw a huge mural of this result painted on some random residential building

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Next to Ramsey, what does '11-Esbol mean'?

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    [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The galloping major 👑

    Billy Wright still at the shops decades later

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    My great grandpa used to tell me about Hungarian Laka Konjica when I was a wee lad. He told me that there was no football fan who didn't love them

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I've only ever known Italy vs Germany in the 1970 WC referred to as "The Game of the Century." The stadium in Mexico even has a sign commemorating as such.

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    [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Was this to do with the Hungarians not using the only formation (the oddly named traditional 5-3-2) that the England players understood so they were stuck rigidly marking thin air?

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