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[-] hexdream@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

I don't know man. I know some of those kids in Africa, and they don't all prioritize the environment over things like food and shelter.

[-] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

For sure, but when we total up the list of top contributors, they're nowhere near the top. So let them, because they're not "the cause".

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

I think that comment was sarcastic.

[-] hexdream@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Yes, but sadly also no. They don't play in the big leagues, but taken over the whole continent it adds up.

[-] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 32 points 16 hours ago

Neither is the average human being anywhere, just trying to survive a hostile narcissistic environment they have no control over

Rich people are destroying the planet. It's nobody else's fault.

[-] Nomad@infosec.pub 3 points 6 hours ago

Let's call that greedy people. I would not mind them being rich if they chose to be a little less rich to pay their people well and earn their money while respecting the environment and protecting the climate.

It could be. We might be stabbing it with a pretty scary knife it wouldn't survive, but the capitalists stuff a hydrogen bomb down its throat every day so that doesn't really matter.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 47 points 19 hours ago

literally nobody thought that was the case. this is just holier-than-thou fartsmellery.

[-] DarthFrodo@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

For climate activists it's very unlikely, but there are people who believe Africans are the issue because of high birth rates, conveniently ignoring that richer countries do the most damage by far.

[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 15 hours ago

are you sure about that? the "oh, humans are so evil, we’re destroying our planet! i wish all humans were dead" sentiment is extremely common

[-] lime@feddit.nu 8 points 15 hours ago

yeah that's called ecofascism. it's about as well thought through an ideology as anarchocapitalism.

[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago

i mean, it has its roots in how we discuss climate change. we call it "human-made", so yes, people will jump to "humanity is to blame for climate change". it’s a very logical leap, and not entirely wrong, even if it doesn’t tell the whole story (which part of humanity is responsible?)

[-] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 5 hours ago

i feel like that part comes naturally. it's pretty easy to go from "i'm trying to help" to "no matter how much i help i can't make a difference because the system makes it useless" to "who designed the system?"

[-] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago

Yes, but much more commom

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 41 points 19 hours ago

"Humans are destroying the planet" has been a great way of off-loading the social responsibility aspect from multi-billion dollar gas guzzling AI-generated farts factory to Grandma, who forgot to put out her recycling last week.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 5 points 15 hours ago

the prefix "some" is implicit there. but also, like, the hundreds of millions of people commuting to work is a bigger problem than the thousands of people driving loud sports cars. it's just that the hundreds of container ships going around the world is a way bigger problem still.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

the hundreds of millions of people commuting to work is a bigger problem than the thousands of people driving loud sports cars

Sure. But it's not the individual commuters who are setting national transportation policy.

The folks driving the sports cars (and in the yachts and private jets), on the other hand...

[-] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 5 hours ago

that's why i continued my post. to illustrate that the issue is not the individual within the system, but the system itself and the people who shape it.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 22 points 18 hours ago

I do agree that this is very rare take from climate activists. Those folks usually know their shit and are pretty radical.

However, this line of reasoning is definitely a thing among laypersons. It has historical precedent that has its roots in Malthusian population theory.

[-] MeetMeAtTheMovies@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago

Thinking about how people say humans are inherently parasitic and Mother Nature is going to get rid of us as punishment

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 14 points 17 hours ago

Unfortunately the misanthropic sentiment is the foundation for a whole plethora of ecofascist tendencies, both intentionally and unintentionally so, that are shockingly common.

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 18 hours ago

Did someone fucking print this tweet out and then scan it?

[-] pnwpixel@programming.dev 15 points 17 hours ago

"How do I install this tweet!?" - some grandma still using AOL dialup

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

AOL Desktop Gold©️™️

[-] SPRUNTnsfw@fedinsfw.app 6 points 16 hours ago

Right!? Why is it slightly askew?

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

There's one word that combines the three and more.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 16 hours ago

Well akshually, the rising standard and of living in the developing world in general and sub-Saharan Africa in particular means that kids in Africa are contributing to climate change. Now when you ask why kids in Africa can't fuel their improving standards of living with solar panels instead you're going to end up at these things, but still.

[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

maybe if yall spent less time on wordplay and more time on finding out where these people live something might get done

[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 14 hours ago

Oh, we know where they live. You'll see. We just need critical mass. A revolution doesn't happen over night and certainly not all at once everywhere.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

It's easy to forget that sadly most people do no support actually doing anything about it at all. Either they'd rather believe it's OK, or they'd rather believe that we're nearly winning.

[-] dumnezero@piefed.social 13 points 19 hours ago

This enemy classification includes the settler/colonialist workers in the Amazon who are working as the frontier of capital accumulation.

[-] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 17 hours ago

I thought Amazon workers for a bit and was thoroughly confused

[-] orioler25@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, libs have been slipping on the eco-fascism like a pair of custom-made shoes.

[-] Polyphilic@lemmy.ca 7 points 18 hours ago

Its easy to criticize, but when you ask for a solution, they've got nothing. Literally zero.

Except for a large scale die off of humanity.

something something, the planet can only support 1 billion

As if 80% population loss is somehow a solution

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 16 hours ago

Uh... who's "they?" Because I've seen plenty of people propose solutions (usually some combination of renewable energy and environmental protection at the national level).

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[-] arin@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

AI datacenters woth their gas turbines

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