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[–] 136 points 2 months ago (1 child)

updated its mobile apps to no longer support GrapheneOS

This is not accurate. They updated the app to actively block GrapheneOS and other third-party Android builds.

The distinction is critical; unsupported combinations often work.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    They updated the app to use the Play Integrity API, which GOS does not meet.

    Not that it means anything, of course. GOS is far more secure than Google's laughable excuse of a certification.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    That is until the official Motorola partnership happens with GoS and Motorola. It's the missing piece for integrity verification as of current listed requirements on Google's documentation. They needed to have first class support from a major OEM. Looking forward to seeing how Google will change that maliciously. This includes attestation.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    That is until the official Motorola partnership happens with GoS and Motorola. It’s the missing piece for integrity verification as of current listed requirements on Google’s documentation. They needed to have first class support from a major OEM. Looking forward to seeing how Google will change that maliciously. This includes attestation.

    Good point, I didn't think about that. It will be very interesting to see what happens.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Companies that don't respect your privacy don't deserve your money either.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Problem is, thanks to capitalism, you're no longer choosing from dozens of companies. You're choosing between 2-3 conglomerates that own the dozens of brands. And all conglomerates will do the exact same shit, because they can, and you're left twiddling your thumbs, not choosing between auto manufacturers but between owning a vehicle or not.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 months ago

    Hahahaha

    Fuck you VW, and your hypocrisy.

    Remember Dieselgate anyone?

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This should get interesting when motorola releases a phone with GrapheneOS on it.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    With the number of countries trying to crack down on privacy-focused phone OSs, I'm a little worried Motorola may get cold feet after talking to its lawyers. Has Motorola made any public statement promising these phones are coming?

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    This is very odd, agree with the devs. Seems like a very aggressive action and with no reasoning behind it?

    I wonder what the real story is.. What had GrapheneOS enabled (or blocked) on user phones that got their executives so pissed they'd explicitly block GrapheneOS users from their apps?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago*

    It's just stupid oversight, they switched to the Play Store API, which naturally excludes Graphene OS. But mind you this is the same managerial incompetence that brought us the lack of a Volks-Wagen (an affordable car that is) from Volkswagen, withdrawing partially from BEVs just as they get fully embraced and the sales start to accelerate, and of course who could forget the let's be honest fully C-suite ordered Diesel exhaust cheating.

    At this point, Volkswagen needs to be shut down and all middle~executive management needs to be prosecuted going back 20 or so years. They're all criminally incompetent and ruined thousands of livelihoods with their negligence.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    They changed something in the play integrity or one of those similar libraries. They're not explicitly targeting GrapheneOS, it's affecting some other platforms too. It was also affecting iPhones, but I think they've since fixed that.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe, the technical explanation is hopefully forthcoming. The article (which I will concede doesn't seem super professional) explicitly says "banned by Volkswagen", which is what I'm curious about.

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    Thanks for that! Sounds like SEAT and Cupra (both have Volkswagen Group as their parent companies) are also affected - I wonder when this will spread to other Volkswagen & Porche-owned brands. What a terrible move for consumer choice/security/etc.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I will never use an app to interface with a car

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    [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    We need a ban on checking the manufacturer/supplier of a device/os instead of checking for APIs.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Was literally looking at a new VW the other day while getting some warranty work done (non VW). This news dropped the same day on my Lemmy feed and I said that takes VW out of the running.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    VW is Audi too for those who don't know.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Volkswagen Auto Group (VAG) is huge. It contains:

    • SEAT
    • Skoda
    • Cupra
    • VW
    • Audi
    • Lamborghini
    • Bently
    • Ducati
    • Porsche
    • MAN
    • International
    • Scania

    And that’s just the vehicles.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Thats fine, Volkswagen is hereby banned from my life.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    That's fine, I wouldn't own a Volkswagen unless it was given to me.

    And then I'd sell it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    The only VW I'll own is air-cooled, or equipped with the EA827 (diesel or gas, either is fine).

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yep, at least those had a reason for being what they are.

    Any other VW is garbage.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    TBF, I would love a Mk1 Rabbit GTI (what the Golf was called in the US for a while). Mostly so I can restore it and gift it to my dad. He had a Mk1 GTI long ago, I remember only bits and pieces of it since he sold it when I was little. But he absolutely loved that car.

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