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[–] 104 points 2 months ago

🖕 this is a hand gesture

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  • [–] 84 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    It will be a cold day in hell before I enable my camera to do anything for google or any of those fucking silicon valley parasites. I will quit the fucking internet first.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    My boss is a dick, but he hates those bastards as much as I do.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 months ago

    Looks like they want free data to improve their image generation for hand gestures.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago

    Another method to get facial recognition data. This goes hand in hand with the other ID submission crap. Fuck off, Google.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago

    get your verification cans ready

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I read the article for the information, but the thing I really want to comment on is this box on the page:

    I have ads blocked, but this is in the middle of the article, so I don't know if it's affiliated with the site or if it's an ad that slipped through the cracks. Either way, wtf?

    Yeah, sure anonymous box, I totally trust you! Here, take all my passwords!

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Honestly suspicious and makes me think the whole site is a trap

    picture of me entering fuck you as a password to their weird password checker

    ah shit my password

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I mean, it does seem to do something. I generated a random one and it told me it was safe. For now! The box then told me to get a password manager with a link to its own password managers article and set up 2FA. The password manager list is just a collection of affiliate links with filler text btw.

    If someone wants to figure out what the site sends to figure this stuff out and if it's more than just rockyou.txt, go ahead.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    F12 reports using that tool sends the password as a form body field to their site (which means their server can read the request in plain text), which responses a json with just a field of how many "matches".

    There's no way to know whether they log the requests (so you should assume they do in uncertainty like this), but it certainly does the real thing of comparing it against a "leaked password" database in their servers. (If you want to check against these, there are real password dumps with list of leaked passwords you can ctrl+f yourself in your own PC, but even then they are likely not complete list as there still exist other database leaks of hashes where your password is not bruteforced yet to be put in plaintext but someone with more time might have gotten to it)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Ah, OK. I was hoping it would maybe do something clever like hash it and send a byte so the server can give it a small list of passwords to check locally but I guess they didn't bother…

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    They're gonna have to have SOME alternative to comply with the ADA, right?

    Coz believe it or not Google, you miserable fucks, there are ppl who don't even have hands. There are ppl who have 'em but are unable to move them b/c of paralysis. There are ppl with probs like cerebral palsy who can't make hand gestures on demand.

    Stop pissing in everybody's cheerios, google. Stop making everybody's lives shittier.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Alternatives for a11y, by Google? That's silly. They haven't brought accessibility to even their main products like Google drive, I highly doubt they care. Those of us with specific requirements for accessibility are the least of their concerns.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If anything, that's even easier to defeat than the current captchas, no? Like with a VTuber thing, or something like that. This feels more like it's about collecting face data

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    i remember reading that the first captcha with the weird letters was used to train OCR, the second one with the click cars thing was to train self driving cars, so maybe this is to train ai to have a better understanding of hand gestures

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    One my most embarrassing personal moments with tech is that I wasn’t immediately revolted when I learned that captcha was being used to farm training data. I just didn’t think it through, and didn’t think I needed to think it through. A hang over from the era of Google in the naughties I suppose.

    Still … fool me once …

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Ahhh, we are finally in "make the peasants dance for our enjoyment" phase.
    Yeah, they can fuck right off. Time to eat the rich, high time, or widely use that French invention to cut off arguments from rich fucks.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)
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    im not enabling my camera....

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Others questioned whether the technology will remain effective. X user Peter Austin (@PeterAusti61402) claimed he had bypassed the challenge using a virtual camera and AI-generated animations.

    Damn, I've been reluctant so far to make sloppy AI animations like so many people are, but I may be forced to do so now to protect my privacy?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Cool. I don't have a camera hooked up to my Mac desktop. I specify Mac because Macs have a cool feature where you can use your iPhone (if you have one) as a camera. So basically I just prop my iPhone up against the monitor, screen away from me, and I now have the best webcam. Except, you have to manually do it, some website isn't just gonna initiate the connection. It's gonna ask the computer for camera permission. The computer handles all that on the back end. It's the same on Windows. If you're using Firefox, specifically, and you deny a website camera access, it doesn't see a computer with a camera. Then what? I guess it just falls back on the old one?

    Same with my MacBook. It does have a camera, but I don't have to give any website permission to access it.

    Just say no to this kind of shit. You might not be able to with Android, though I'm fairly certain you can. You might not be able to with Chrome, though I know now you can. But the way Chrome killed ad blocking for the most part? Yeah, they can do that with other privacy protections. Don't use Chrome.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    If I get hit with one of these I'm pressing back on that website. I don't have a camera and I'm not giving them that much data for free.

    It'll get to a point where using captcha will lose the website traffic and sales and it won't be worth it in the long run if people don't give in to this shit.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    I've got a variety of fun and friendly hand gestures the AI can learn

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Show verification can

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago
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    Anyone know the % of web sites using google's captcha?

    I found a site that might have the info, but ... wait for it... ... ... it blocked me for being a bot! Seriously!

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    [ ] Are you a Crip?

    [ ] Are you a Blood?

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    Good luck. My camera is busted

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I have a hand gesture for you Google, here's the New York bird 🖕

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    what camera?

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