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[–] 76 points 3 months ago (1 child)

When we can't feed everyone, that's weakness, and it is sad.

When its a choice, that's power, and its fun!

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    [–] 44 points 3 months ago (24 children)

    To make more food to stockpile and force people to buy or watch rot you silly billy!

    Seriously though. Its one thing to want to sell the food, I get that people gotta get paid, but the fact that in a lot of places we just throw away the unsold food to rot in the rubbish is ridiculous!

    Like seriously, we're just gonna throw away this food rather than even attempt to give it to those in need, and fire anybody who tries, cause it might slightly eat into profits?? That's just psychopathic levels of corporate apathy.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    So, here's a problem: food logistics is a massive, complicated morass of infrastructure. Getting food from the area where it's produced to the area where there are people who want to eat it is difficult. A lot of individual steps have to go right for a bell pepper grown in Coahuila to show up in a grocery store in Tokyo, unspoilt and ready to eat.

    The timing of when the pepper is picked, how fast it will ripen and how long until it spoils is built into the steps of the supply chain. The cost of the logistics system for distributing food, and the overhead for managing and containing the chaos, is probably substantially higher than the cost of actually producing the food.

    The point being, when the bell pepper is at the store it is now ready for consumption. It will be there 2, maybe 3 days, and then if it is unsold it is at least halfway to rotten. Now at this point you want to try to redistribute it, which will require another supply chain, but there isn't time to figure out where to send an overripe bell pepper or who would want to eat it, or to pack it and ship it and then unpack it and hopefully use it before it's completely rotten.

    Refrigeration is a wonderful technology that has brought massive reduction of food waste, but it has limits. You can't un-ripen a fruit. Trying to re-ship food at this point would not be worth the cost, and ultimately would create environmental harms that would outweigh any benefit.


    Always buy local, as much as you can!

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Okay, that's true for fresh produce with a minimal shelf life. But we also do that for shelf stable (like dried, canned, jarred) foods which can much more reasonably be donated after their display date.

    And that's assuming some sort of centralised donation scheme, and not just mandating the stores donate to a local foodbank or such - which would make it a bit more feasible to donate some fresh produce.

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    [–] 27 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Liberals absolutely loath the hungry and starve people for entertainment. They hate the fact that anarchists adore their comrades and feed ourselves for solidarity.
    Tell a liberal to open a canteen, and see how they send cops to destroy free food caravan.
    Food not Bombs arrests

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Soup kitchens work great, and I do not know how they avoid this shit. Perhaps they enthusiastically pretend not to be interested in mutual aid of any kind, just helping the deserving poor or whatever.

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    [–] 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    50s Prediction: In the future, robots will do menial tasks so you can focus on arts, family and science!

    Actuality: You lost you job as an artist to AI. Enjoy a lifetime of debt and poverty. Maybe you can find some menial way to sustain yourself just enough to barely live.

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    [–] 23 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    What is the point of automation and mass production when the prices of certain basic staples keeps going up? You are really going to tell me we can't get a loaf of bread down to 1 dollar?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    What is the point of automation and mass production when the prices of certain basic staples keeps going up?

    Horizontal Integration Explained

    Companies pursue horizontal integration for synergies like economies of scale or cost savings in marketing, R&D, production, and distribution. This can make manufacturing multiple products more cost-effective. Tiers of sale under a single distributor (economy and generic versus luxury or specialty) also afford the corporate entity to scale price to income and maximize revenue per customer.

    The "organic" label is a good example of this in practice. Add a 50% mark-up on bananas by telling people the "regular" bananas are unsafe. Anyone who can't tolerate the professed risk (typically people with more disposable income) end up paying extra to the same distributor for what is functionally the same product sold at a premium price.

    Automation and Mass Production are tools of monopolization in the capitalist economic model. The efficiencies of production are used to lock competitors out of the market, not to improve the consumer-experienced efficiency of production, distribution, or sale.

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    [–] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Housing, healthcare, clean water and food security are all human fuxking rights

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago*

    We were forced to build it by people with ambitions for power who were willing to kill, torture and starve us into compliance. Our civilizations are all descended from slaver societies.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    You’re not getting it - we invented all that so a few mentally ill monkeys could hoard all the bananas and let around 10 billion other monkeys suffer, starve, and toil for their pleasure.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    I wonder what percentage of people actually disagree with this in the US. I bet it's a very small percentage.

    Edit: like definitely less than 50% of people, probably closer to 25% or maybe even as small as 10%

    Please don't ruin this for me, I need my hope for humanity to come back.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (21 children)

    Kill the rich, save the poor. Taxation, is not enough for the current era. There must be justice for the crimes committed. Once they are dead, then we can figure out how to run the world without capitalism. Untill then, the elimination of the ultra-rich by any means should be the goal. Everything else is noise.

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    [–] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    And if you go back to the original community structure it was the family or tribe - where the whole point was group survival, not luxury for a few while the majority scraped by.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    UBI or collectivisation solves this.

    Just need enough combined will to realise either.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Hierarchy was there right from the start so I don't agree that we were ever on the same page as to why we do anything.

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    [+] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    the capitalists would say that we did, in fact, gain all these capabilities so they could enrich themselves by letting food rot.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    I think we built civilization to do more stuff like attend consorts

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    No we obviously built agriculture so we could have futures trading

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