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I'm all sceptical of AI and the hype but maybe the curl codebase is just quite secure and there are not many vulnerabilities? Not finding a bunch of things doesn't mean the model sucks. That's a stupid conclusion.
Daniel has been quite vocal about his views on AI slop reports, but he's also been honest about how some AI systems have been able to identify issues in the curl code, ranging from documentation drift to actual vulnerabilities. It's not that Mythos isn't finding vulns. It's that Mythos is not noticeably better at finding them than other tools (LLM or non-LLM), unlike what Anthropic are claiming.
Note: This does not mean that AI tools can't find bugs. There are plenty of tools that are able to, and for sure plenty of bugs out there that have not been found yet.
Indeed. What Daniel actually said was that, if you have already used the other AI tools to find bugs, Mythos is unlikely to find more.
Well, we have used C/C++ in applications instead of higher-level languages. AI could atleast be used to port them, even to, say, a slightly higher-level language like Vala for GNOME apps. Automating the putting of lipstick on a pig and the fattening of pigs isn't very useful if horses are the better choice.
Dev on one of the most highly used simple tools finds project is secure. News at 11. They really would have to try hard to find a worse example.
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I stopped reading there, curl can do crazy stuff, even sending emails.
Curl has some 200k lines of code.
Nvidia drivers are 1M.
Nix kernel is 40M
Don't get your trousers in a twist, it's useful, but it's not that complex and limited in scope compared to an actually large and complex product.
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