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[–] 240 points 5 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 71 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    For those who haven’t seen this excellent video:

    https://youtu.be/T4Upf_B9RLQ

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  • [–] 45 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    It's not that "excellent." It's just 'for the evulz' mustache-twirling comical villainy, which ends up downplaying what's actually important to know about enshittification, which is how self-serving and abusive it is. When companies enshittify products and services, they're not just making them worse; they're specifically making them more exploitative.

    A lot of the examples shown in the video -- cutting holes in socks, sawing off a chair leg so it wobbles, drying out a marker, etc. -- are not enshittification. Enshittification is stuff like putting spyware in devices so that you double-dip on the purchase price and the value of the data, or turning products (as opposed to services) into a subscription. Stuff that extracts unearned value from the customer.

    It touches on it in the latter part of the video, but for the most part misses the mark.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You know, it was funny. Bit long in the tooth. The best thing about the video, it was actually produced by Norway. The government produced the video. That's pretty freaking cool.

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  • [–] 196 points 5 months ago (18 children)

    ̶S̶̶i̶̶d̶̶e̶̶l̶̶o̶̶a̶̶d̶̶i̶̶n̶̶g̶ Installing

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    [–] 155 points 5 months ago* (34 children)

    Great. So half my software won't work.

    Google, just call it what it is. Ad blocking prevention.

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  • [–] 56 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (33 children)

    This is in no way a justification for what Google is doing, but they came to a "compromise" where you can still opt-in to being allowed to "sideload unverified apps" (read: install apps that didn't have to get approval from Google).

    You have to enable it in the settings, and then you need to wait 24 hours before the setting is enabled. After that you can continue to run "unverified" apps

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  • [–] 52 points 5 months ago (25 children)

    What I haven't seen is what happens to all of the apps I currently have installed when this hits.

    Am I going to have to wait 24 hours to open apps I already have installed?

    Will they all get auto-removed and need reinstalling?

    Everything is written as if you're starting from new not an existing state.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (17 children)

    What happens if I just stop updating android for as long as I can? Quite a few apps on my phone have retained functionality past when their developers attempted to brick them because I froze updates

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    My Samsung S22 let me pause updates anymore. And it nags me to death.

    My workaround is to start downloading the update and then pausing it.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago

    The "advanced flow" with a one-day wait is just Google realizing they need to boil this frog a little more slowly to prevent a backlash. They still want a fully boiled frog in the end.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago

    Xiaomi bootloaders used to work like that. You'd have to jump through some bullshit hoops to register your phone for bootloader unlocking, and then wait a few days to finally be able to unlock it. Then they made that worse and worse, and afaik it's so insanely difficult and inconvenient right now that it's practically impossible to unlock your Xiaomi phone's bootloader. This applies to all the brands under that umbrella.

    I am about 97.37% sure Google will do the same over time and at some point you just won't be able to install any APKs.

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  • [–] 134 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Ummm... Isn't this precisely against the whole EU's make sideloading (ie. installing) as easy as main app store installing thing?
    Taking steps backwards...

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  • [–] 104 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Apple shat all over those regulations with their implementation and got away with it so now Google are doing the same

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  • [–] 41 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

    Accountability is key in regulations. Without it, why should anyone follow them?

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    [–] 107 points 5 months ago (29 children)

    And that's why I'm installing /e/OS in my Fairphone 6, and shifting to Linux based phones.

    Even now Google is removing everything that is a choice to avoid their massive surveillance machine, apps started complaining about removal of UnifiedPush:

    Fuck Google.

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    [–] 81 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 74 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    How is it even legal for a company to decide what you can or can't install in your own device?

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Because anti-trust has not been enforced this century, with the exception of Lina Khan's work as the FCC director.

    Companies have been pushing the boundaries further and further for decades, with almost no push back.

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    [–] 66 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Do we stand any chance? And how fucking dare these fucking outlets continue to normalize this shit.

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  • [–] 61 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    We need development of Linux OSs for phones to ramp up. And we need Linux distributors and backers to fight back against "age verification" laws that are actually ID verification laws. There's a global attack underway on multiple fronts against free software, private computing, and user ownership and control of devices.

    In the meantime, for a stopgap, there's GrapheneOS, but that doesn't fix the problem of developers having to choose between Google's way or unpaid obscurity.

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    The weirdest part to me: this comes after the EU determined that Apple's locked store is too restrictive, and Apple agreed to allow 3rd party stores. Why the hell would Android go in the opposite direction? Will this put them in violation of the same EU regulation?

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    [–] 23 points 5 months ago (6 children)
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    [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    Just bought a second hand pixel 6 to test Graphene. Let's see what Motorola does and how Linux phones do in the future.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I have the new Jolla Phone preordered and I'm excited to see how it plays out. Maybe 2026 is the year of the Linux Phone

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    [–] 17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Motorola is making a graphene OS phone soon.

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    [–] 16 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I've been saving all the .apk files for apps I find valuable, just in case this ends up impacting future GrapheneOS builds.

    Worst case scenario, at least I'd be able to use a saved Pixel for the apps I want, without needing a Google account.

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    [–] 14 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    I really wish I wasn't so dependent on certain financial apps. How much happier I would be to just give Google the finger and switch to Lineage, Graphene, or something like that. Unfortunately, a lot of must-have apps for me to even be able to live in my country, practically speaking, are incompatible with anything other than official iOS and Android.

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    [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Reckon we are gonna need to see some how to guides for adb. I presume its like the linux terminal?

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