"A free market is self regulating" until someone makes a better product for less money, I guess.

People CONSTANTLY harp on Chinese government support of the EV industry.

Name one ICE manufacturer not taking state and federal money. Detroit took $80B in handouts after 2008. That's far more than the Chinese government has spent, and the largest investor in Chinese industry, by far, has been Apple Computers.

So China ended up with a new industry taking the world stage. What did we get from Detroit? Bloated low tech shit boxes that barely make it past warranty.

That‘s the main problem in Europe as well. I don‘t mind tariffs on heavily subsidized cars that are designed not to make profit but to destroy our industries. However, even then our manufacturers are in a constant crisis mode and unable to adapt. It‘s really pathetic.

But hey, when the car lobby is dead maybe that means more trains and cycling paths in the long run? Perhaps there‘s an opportunity here.

But really, they aren’t trying at all.

GM's biggest sales increases are with Cadillac EVs last year.

Detroit followed the Tesla model, with the highest profit margins in the industry because their CEO convinced simps EVs should be expensive. So they jumped in early with poorly designed and expensive vehicles, thinking Tesla stans were everywhere.

There was a time, worldwide, if you just wanted a reliable and low cost sedan, you bought a Ford or Chevy, and they sold millions. But round 2016, Detroit lost interest in lower cost vehicles, and by 2020, they got addicted to price gouging cheap vehicles to make them expensive, and why not, people were paying $70,000+ for a Jeep and just taking it up the ass.

Given Detroit abandoned that part of the market, they shouldn't care if Chinese EVs arrive, right? Because their $60,000 EVs are a better product, right?

Has always been this way. Back in the late 70/early 80s, Harley couldn't compete with the Japanese bikes so they lobbied to daddy fed to make sure all the foreign bikes got tarriffed out of existence over 700cc. So the Japanese said "hold my soju" and made 699cc motorcycles that still made more power than the gargantuan Harley bikes of the time. USA has always tried to give US based companies a leg up over objectively superior products. Our tax dollars are why there are any American car companies left, sure Ford didn't get a direct bail out but we use them for police and other service vehicles across the country which has helped keep them afloat. Plus obviously Chrysler and GM taking govt bailouts and still flailing desperately while making trash vehicles and wondering why they don't sell. The American auto industry doesn't struggle to keep pace, it has NEVER caught up to or even compared to the rest of the world. They have always been 30+ years behind any European or Asian vehicle.

Dealers arent incentivized to promote a vehicle that requires less maintenance they can mark up.

Someone should tell them “struggle to keep pace” is different “abandoning the attempt”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Light-Duty_Vehicle_Test_Cycle

The CLTC testing accounts for the country's higher congestion levels with more frequent stop-and-go and lower speed limits, which lead to increased low-speed driving and longer idling times that benefits electric vehicles.

Came across this which I've not validated but does seem to make sense at a glance: Comparison of WLTP and CLTC

Based on that the WLTP range would be 828-900km (515-560 miles).

Real world, 6-700km at a guess?

Yeah, the EV range is frustrating.

270 miles? Pretty good. Except you shouldn't drive it below 20% or above 80%, so really the range is like 170. Cold winter? Now it's like 75.

No regrets on our EV, but I would feel a whole more more comfortable with 2x the capacity.

Too bad we can't buy BYD here.