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AI generated quotes in a story about AI clanker writing a blog post about a human developer because they didn't accept their code contributions.

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[–] 188 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Now somebody needs to post about this on Reddit, so The Verge can make an AI generated piece based on the post!

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago

    And charge you to read it. The Verge is mostly (all?) paywalled these days.

    I'd say they used to be good, but then I'd be lying. I still remember when The Verge shit all over the Galaxy Note, then praised the iPhone 6 Plus to high heaven. Even as an Apple guy, the bias stunk.

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    [–] 132 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

    In typical Ars fashion, the editorial team appears to be looking into what happened and are being fairly open about at things: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/journalistic-standards.1511650/

    I will be very disappointed if this was BenJ or Dan [edit: I had messed this up, it wasn’t Dan but Kyle Orland that coauthored it] Kyle using AI to write their article since both have had really good pieces in the past, but it doesn’t sound like this is some Ars wide shift at this point. Like all things, it makes sense that it will take time for them to investigate this, Aurich (the Ars community lead and graphic designer) was clear that with this happening on a Friday afternoon and a US holiday on Monday, it’s likely to be into next week before they have anything they can share.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    What do they have to investigate? Did one of them accidentally get an AI to write the article and then accidentally post the article, like they just fell on the keyboard and accidentally typed in a prompt? Come on.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    I would hazard to guess they are investigating how the use of AI was missed in their editorial process, how they missed the incorrect quotes, and who violated their journalistic standards by using an AI to directly write article text since it’s a coauthored piece.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 76 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    That poor guy, the ai is just ganging up on him

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    [–] 74 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    I pointed out a month ago that Ars Technica is a rot site and starting to be filled with AI regurgitated bullshit and got 80+ down votes and a few uneducated replies.

    Y'all feel better now?

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  • [–] 64 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    No, the issue we are talking about today and calling Ars an "internet rot site" is a huge leap. Yeah, they post shit articles from Wired and such, (they are owned by Conde Nast), but their core writers are still great and have plenty of good articles.

    You want credit for what? Over exaggerating an issue then whining about it?

    You are throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and then spitting on the baby. It makes no sense.

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    [–] 57 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    It would be nice if he decides to sue ars technica for that. Writers and publisher need to learn the hard way that you can't use ai and trust that for publishing stuff that needs factual coherence. If not by ethics, let it be from fear of lawsuits.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    Sue them for what? He would have to prove damages and they took it down.

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago* (11 children)

    Libel. Taking it down doesn’t undo the damage to reputation which libel is concerned with. They might not get any monetary damages awarded but could maybe force Ars to put out a retraction.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    As much as I would like to see that happen paying to fight a court case against Conde Nast just to get a retraction that they will stick somewhere invisible doesn't really sound like a winning formula.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Publicly making false statements using his name isn't a crime by itself in his jurisdiction?

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    This is bad enough that a serious company that wanted to salvage their reputation properly might wanna consider putting in some weekend overtime.

    Frankly, no. Correcting an article about a blog post isn't important enough to force your workers to sacrifice their weekends.
    That should be reserved to life-and-death emergencies.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Now what to do about the lazy writer who used AI to write the article and didn't bother fact check it and make sure the quotes are real?

    Fixing the article, weekend or next week, doesn't address the problem itself.

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    [–] 28 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    "Alexa, slander this man for me"

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    [–] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Which ars writer was the article attributed to?

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Ars is just AI slop now? Sad.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Ars is owned by Condé Nast which also owns Reddit, so "AI slop" is part of their business.

    I still trust Ars Technica (I don't like them much but I do trust them... it's complicated) and I trust Aurich (their founder/editor-in-chief) to act fairly. They don't work on the weekends or holidays though, so he's not touching it until Tuesday, though.

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago

    Welcome to discourse in a post-truth society. Reality doesn't matter anymore; news agencies can just make shit up, and even the comments on the fake articles are fake.

    Rail against it, until it's the only thing you ever do. A single bot can still post a thousand times more, and on a thousand different accounts, and on a thousand different platforms. Just one of them can formulate fake ideas and then fake arguments with itself that enfold like a fractal, and there is an effectively infinite number of them.

    Kessler Syndrome is happening before our very eyes, only on a much more local scale.

    This ad was brought to you by OpenAI.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    This is what you get trying offload all your work on ChatGPT.

    Better one is when lawyer tries it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqSYljRYDEM

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    [–] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Damn. Am I gonna have to cancel my Ars subscription now? Every damn thing is enshittifying these days

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    [–] 15 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    Hard to keep track of all the recent changes in media ownership, editorial and quality control. Would love a browser plugin to give me an indicator because on the rare occasion I read a publication in say, USA, it might have had a good rep last time I read it several years ago. I imagine managing the detailed scores that a plugin might pull from would be a mammoth task, though.

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    [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

    Ars Technica has published a retraction

    edit: Benj Edwards, the author responsible, has posted his side. tl;dr: He was sick and he messed up, and he asked for the article to be pulled because he was too sick to fix it right away.

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    [–] 7 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    So can someone ELI5 all this for me please

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Guy named Scott runs a GitHub (code base). AI agent (bot acting on behalf of a person, who has yet to come forward) submitted code. Scott rejects it. AI agent writes a "hit piece" (defaming article) on Scott.

    Ars Technica, a trusted tech/science blog for nearly 25 years, writes a story about it, but the two authors who worked on it used AI to write the blog entry. Scott calls them out in the comments. At first he's accused of lying or being a bot, but people dig into it and realise Ars Technica made up their quotes.

    An Ars Technica user calls them out in their forums for posting AI slop as journalism, and the site's founder and/or owner ("Aurich") promises an investigation, and deletes the article, removing all the comments, and shutting down discussion over what happened until his team can investigate internally.

    (Worth noting that Ars Technica is owned by a conglomerate called Condé Nast which also owns Reddit; therefore, Condé Nast is involved with AI, and also other unsavoury stuff, but relevant to this, AI.)

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