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[–] 108 points 7 months ago (39 children)

So that kind of means that the high-end AAA PC market will crash in the next years, right? No new GPUs, production stop for existing GPUs and rising prices for GPU & RAM in combination with inflation and a bad economy ensure that many people can't afford a gaming computer. And that a lot of those younger gamers can't afford to start this hobby.

And that means a shrinking audience for games, which need all this GPU power. If you're an AAA publisher, it kind of looks crazy to invest multiple millions into a game that you can't be sure that your audience will be able to afford to play

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  • [–] 79 points 7 months ago (18 children)

    All games will be streamed, with a subscription

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Retroarch disagrees. I don’t need your newfangled enshittified slop. I have megaman X and wine.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Definitely a shrinking audience for AAA games, but I don’t think it will be too bad gamers overall. Consoles will keep marching forward, as will Valve with the Steam Deck and Steam Machine.

    I think the highest of the high end graphics stuff has long since hit diminishing returns. You can do a hell of a lot with yesterday’s hardware and less-than-bleeding-edge process nodes for newer hardware. Consoles have never used bleeding edge GPUs and they’ve always done fine with sales (across the whole market, if not always individually). I think we’re highly unlikely to see a repeat of the 1983 gaming crash.

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    [–] 66 points 7 months ago (27 children)

    Someone is going to make bank by catering to consumers. Will the market accept nvidia back with open arms if/when the ai investments fall through?

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    [–] 51 points 7 months ago (16 children)
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    I wish there were more laptops using AMD gpus here in Brazil. You basically can't find any laptop with an AMD gpu if you search for "gamer laptop" in Brazilian stores.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Gaming laptops are a not really worth it imo. They're underpowered, overheat easily, and tend to break quickly. That doesn't even touch on their battery life, even when not under load.I'd recommend getting a steam deck if you really need the portability, but it doesn't look like they're available in Brazil :/

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    [–] 36 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Maybe some Chinese manufacturer will find a way to fill the gap in the market

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    i think the latest is that china has managed to create a GPU that’s ~7 years behind. i’m not sure that’s “a GPU from 7 years ago” or “it will take them 7 years, acknowledging that there’s a known path so will take less time”

    AFAIK they’ll have to figure out EUV or some other method of lithography at that scale, which they’re trying really hard at but it’s one heck of a difficult thing to do which is why only TSMC currently actually has it working

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    [–] 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Let Nvidia go bankrupt, we won't miss it

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    If consumers can't get new gpus, devs aren't going to bother spec'ing for them. This'll probably just result in a stalling of tech you'll see at home for a few years. Honestly that seems to be happening already. The leaps we'd seen in previous generations seem to be slowing anyway. Maybe this is just a plateau of tech for a while. Good for consumers when they accept that they don't have to always be on the bleeding edge.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago

    I want devs to write games for £400 Steam Decks. I don't want them to write games for £3000 GPUs.

    There's realistically no games that won't run on PS5 level hardware. Every effect that can be done with raytracing can be done a little worse without it.

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    While AMD is no angel, I'm glad I went for Radeon RX 9070 XT this time. Really good GPU and fuck NVIDIA. I hope unified RDNA5 will work out for AMD.

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    [–] 23 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    i really hope nvidia collapses when the AI bubble pops. They've been more harm than good for consumers for too long.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Hey, I've seen this one before.

    Last time it was crypto instead of AI, but other than that it's just the same shit again.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (20 children)

    As someone not looking to spend a ton of money on new hardware any time soon: good. The longer it takes to release faster hardware, the longer current hardware stays viable. Games aren't going to get more fun by slightly improving graphics anyway. The tech we have now is good enough.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (19 children)

    People don't just use computers for gaming. If this continues people will struggle to do any meaningful work on their personal computes which is definitely not good. And I'm not talking about browsing facebook but about coding, doing research, editing videos and other useful shit.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    But wait! They can pay for remote computing time for a fraction of the cost! Each month. Forever.

    I fully expect personal computers to be phased out in favor of a remote-access, subscription model. AI popping would leave these big data centers with massive computational power available for use, plus it's the easiest way to track literally everything you do on your system.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    What could a GPU cost? $5000?

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    [–] 20 points 7 months ago* (6 children)

    We're running straight into a future where consumers' only option for computers are a cloud solution like MS 365

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    [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    If you want to do work with the GPU you're still buying NVIDIA. Particularly 3D animation, video/film editing, and creative tools. Even FOSS tools like GIMP and Krita prefer NVIDIA for GPU accelerated functions.

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