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[–] 66 points 7 months ago (27 children)

Someone is going to make bank by catering to consumers. Will the market accept nvidia back with open arms if/when the ai investments fall through?

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    As a Linux gamer, nvidia was already on thin ice.

    Also I had past them up on recentish purchases since they only really controlled the highest end of the market which I don't have the budget for. So honestly I have no intention of welcoming them back unless there is literally no other option. You made your bed.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    This is still a pain point for me. I have been looking for a laptop with an AMD GPU for years to use with Linux, but System76, Starlabs, framework, etc insist on only having Nvidia as a discreet option. Or is it that AMD does not have laptop GPUs? Could be.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    This is not an advertisement, but have you checked laptopwithlinux (dot) com?

    They're based in Europe and I'm pretty sure they offer laptops with AMD GPUs, if integrated ones count. Not sure if it's the highest end stuff, might not have VRAM, but there are definitely AMD laptop GPUs

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Thanks. I'll check them out. But I was actually referring to discreet GPUs. I think I've never seen an AMD laptop GPU before.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Oh, yeah I don't know if they carry those. It's harder to fit one in a laptop case, so I only see them in specialized gaming laptops, and unfortunately most gaming laptops on the market seem to use nvidia.

    Maybe them ceasing to produce consumer products will open a niche that others might fill. Time will tell.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Why do you need a laptop so bad?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Because I travel a lot for work. My PC is way less powerful than my current laptop precisely because I spend more time in the road.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Hmm. Even when I was doing graveyard shifts with basically six hours of just me and my laptop during the dead of the night, my desktop was still more powerful than my gaming laptop.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    That would be nice. But video cards are a VERY niche piece of engineering. The knowledge of HOW to make them is locked in a handful of people, and the ability to make them locked behind a very niche set of equipment that will ALSO be exploding in cost.

    One does not simply start a graphics card company.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I don’t think a newcomer could do it, but a company like Intel is posed to be in a good position. They don’t have much market share but they have a good product.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Intel is arguably worse. They‘re in a bad spot right now so they can‘t do crazy things like Nvidia but they totally would and will go down the same path. I don‘t think US designed hardware will ever truly come back to end consumer products.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago*

    Nothing will. They're moving us onto techno feudalism. We won't earn anything and we'll be wage slaves if they're merciful to us, otherwise most people will be in camps and dead, unless we stand up real damn soon .

    They're actively moving away from the bottom 90% of consumers, it's just not worth it anymore and maybe once it was worth advertising to us, but no longer. The top 10% owns 93% of stocks and control at least 55% of the market revenue as of early 2025, probably closer to 60-65% now, after tariffs, layoffs, and the nonexistent recession We're all imagining and definitely isn't real. /s

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    I hope they don't have the production of non-ai chips then.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    I get the disdain for GenAI, but are AI chips really the problem? Maybe they're more expensive and price people out, but it's not like they're built on plagiarism like most generative AI models.

    As far as I'm aware, they're just capable of running highly complex multivariable calculi in parallel, making them more efficient for AI applications, but wouldn't the same features make them better for more realistic physics and other game mechanics like procedural generation, NPC pathfinding and behaviors, etc.?

    I guess it would suck for anyone who doesn't have the hardware to play a game, but there could always be options to configure in the settings to make it playable, like "don't use tensor calculus in game physics" or whatever

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Far as i know, GPUs are more specialized on vector calculations. Some upscaling/frame generation techniques use AI hardware but that's it.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Vectors, tensors, and matrices. Not all AI chips are GPUs though, there are currently NPUs in development and the next generation of consumer chips might have them integrated in the CPU.

    They're not good for deterministic equations, like gravity, collisions, or pathfinding, but they could advance other aspects of games like procedural generations, fluid dynamics, NPC dynamic personalities and emergent behaviors.

    Some things are still better left to the CPU or GPU, but offloading some tasks to the NPU might allow for more complexity like simulating full weather systems with Parametric Partial Differential Equations

    I'm speculating, of course. But playing a game inside a fully-simulated physics engine seems like it could be cool (despite being resource-intensive in current hardware)

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