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[–] 28 points 3 years ago (7 children)

Just removed like 40 comments and banned a buncha people.

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    [–] 22 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    Agree with you in general, but I think a lot if people here are not really informed what differences there are materialistic ideologies.

    Yes, Stalin bad.

    But Guevara is not Stalin.

    Marx is not che

    Engels is not Marx

    China is not communist.

    Marxism is not materialism

    Socialism is not communism

    Also the amount of people bringing the "the 3 times people tried socialism were bad, so the whole ideology must be bad" argument are way to high IMHO.

    How many times was capitalism tried? How many times it worked out? Is the USA a "functioning" state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

    While I agree with you, that oppression is bad, no matter what the oppressor calls himself, we should talk about policies without resorting to dogmas and generalising people in favor of fear the hegemonic class is propagating to stay in power.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Yeah, that's not the tankies here; these are "North Korea is a great country, actually" tankies.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago* (21 children)

    Is the USA a “functioning” state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

    I hope you realize that this is an incredibly privileged take. The US is rife with issues, but the hardships experienced by the average western citizen doesn't even compare to the suffering that you would find in, say, Pol Pot's Cambodia, or (to a less extreme extent) Maduro's Venezuela. To compare what a US citizen deals with on a daily basis due to capitalism to what a citizen of any of those countries had to go through is very reductive and may be perceived as disrespectful to many who had to live those experiences.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    tankies more like no thankies

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I got banned from lemmygrad for saying acab means all cops lmao

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Meanwhile anarchist organizing doesn't have cops, it has Agents of Community Defense who definitely aren't cops!

    I have nothing against anarchists, but you need to see past slogans to be anything but a useful idiot to neoliberals.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Based.

    They already have lemmygrad.

    Honestly, I don't think we need them here.

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    No one is suggesting that the states the authoritarian communists replaced were good or functional, just that they failed to actually uplift and make people's lives better. There's nothing to admire about one oppressive state being replaced by another.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    there's literally a community called "moretankie196", they should go infest that one instead

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    [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    This comment section is really something uh

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Can we have something like tankiejerk here? I seriously liked browsing that sub after a bad day with the red fashs.

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    [–] 8 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    What are some good actual communist lemmy communities that aren't supporting the fucking capitalist imperialist russian invasion?

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    [–] 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    finds social media developed by tankies

    looks inside

    finds tankies

    fr I'm down with having a good old purge eventually but noone should be surprised

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    [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    This post has literally 6 times the comments of the next most-comments post, jesus. Wonder what could have triggered this!

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Literally just made an account and am just a Reddit pleb. What exactly are tankies and what is 196? Guessing it's a Lemmy server but otherwise unsure

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    196 is a shitpost sub where you must post something when you vist

    a tankie is a authoritarian that believes they're a communist. they support the imperialist invasion of Ukraine, and they deny the tianaman square massacre, where the CCP ran tanks over college students protesting the authoritarian government. they deny a bunch of other atrocities as well, these are the only two i can think of right now.

    a lot of tankies are going to be posting an essay by Engles that defends authoritarianism, asserting that authoritarianism is compatible with communism. which, while sure, isn't ideal because one person having power always ends in genocide. well, it doesn't end in genocide, genocide just... happens under authoritarianism.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago*

    Tankies are far left Marxists/Communists that are so anti- USA/West that they gladly defend almost anything that opposes the USA. Even authoritarian states like Russia and China. To be clear not every Communist is a Tankie through. And if you critizises on of this countries for horrible stuff, the Tankies will see you automatically as a USA chill. Because, from my online interactions with them, they see the world in black and white.

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    [–] 5 points 3 years ago (19 children)

    Honest question - what's a tankie? I feel like I've seen them mentioned a ton on Lemmy but I'd never heard the term prior to a few days ago. From the image it looks like a maga/skinhead combo?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Tankie was first used for that kind of communist supporter who kept singing Russia's praises/defending Russia even when Russia was sent 5000 tanks to crush a popular uprising in Czechoslovakia (the "Prague Spring") on August 20, 1968. Some people just couldn't accept that a communist country could do something bad, so defended the action.

    Nowadays, it's used to refer to those that are strongly supportive of Russia, completely ignoring the awful things they do. Often these days there's a lot of anti American bent to it. Like, anything anti America and American "imperialism" must be good - even blatant and awful Russian Imperialism.

    These days they calmly explain how Ukraine just needs to come to the table and discuss peace (ignoring that Ukraine wouldn't exist if they did so) and blame America for the war in Ukraine for... well... they're America. The people who want war, or are causing the war, are those giving Ukraine weapons - not the country that is literally invading it.

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    [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    b b b b b based

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Why are Blanquists even in the Fediverse? The Fediverse is about decentralization while Blanquists are for the extreme opposite.

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