So, extortion... I am not surprised.
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"We certainly can’t control President Trump, but … we can control our defense investments, who we award contracts to and how we are ultimately able to create jobs in Canada. So we’re going to focus on that.”
We need much more of this sort of thing.
It needs to reach the point at which the universal international response to Trump's latest bullshit is a diplomatically phrased (or even not) "Fuck you."
Whatever it is and whoever is on the receiving end - "Fuck you."
This is more reason to get out of the deal and get more grafins.
I know this US ambassador is an a-hole, and he tends to shoot his mouth like Trump. However. After reading the article, it isn't as bad as the headline implies. Sending their jets isn't as a threat, but what the ambassador is saying is that more F-35s are needed to fill in whatever security roles it plays in their defensive strategy if Canada buys something else. In the event of some other jets we're using, they would have to alter NORAD in order to allow more US F-35 jets to patrol the skies over Canada.
Yeah, this is already something they can (and do) do under the terms of NORAD.
Why would the Jets have to be f35s?
The agreement existed before f35s existed, so it can't be due to something unique to the f35 itself.
Not sure. These are the only type of its kind. It has capabilities other jets don't have and they work together with other F35s and defense systems.
Had to scroll pretty far down to find someone that actually read it....
What the actual fuck? Buy shit from us or we will invade you. I'm fucking disgusted with my country.
Canada is in the process of leaving an abusive relationship
The actual proposal is that the US would have to fund NORAD more, with their own planes. That should be great for all of Canadians. In fact, since NORAD defends the US from Russia, the US should pay Canada for use of our bases, and the privilege of using our airspace. The US only lives because of Canada.
They say, as though if we agree they won't simply use the same threat later for something else, and then ignore the agreement when it suits them.
Might as well just ignore the threat
In that case, US airspace is fair game for Canada. Rules don't mean anything anymore so fuck them.
Buy our warplanes or we're gonna bomb you.
What the actual Shit???!!
That's not at all what the article is saying.
Under the current terms of NORAD, the U.S. and Canada can operate in one another’s airspace to track or intercept threats.
Ambassador Pete Hoekstra cautioned that if Canada purchased fewer fighter jets, the U.S. would “fill those gaps” in security concerns.
"NORAD would have to be altered," Hoekstra told CBC News.
One can read threats into that, but it's quite far from threats of bombing.
There is simply no level of stupid that will surprise me from them anymore.
If Lockheed Martin wants to abandon the US and give us all the classified information it has then the deal can proceed, if they want to continue to do business with the US or keep parts of their tech hidden then no deal can take place.
Free Airspace Military Support. We don't have to spend billions of dollars buying and maintaining the F-35s. Adding to the Gripens, there's going to be more coverage on our airspace for less money...
For some reason this reminds me of the the 9-11 bombings. In my Canadian newspaper (Globe and Mail from 9/11), it stated that the usa's FAA will shut down the airspace between usa/Canada if Canada did not prevent Salman Rushdie from entering the usa, from Canada. I was shocked that the FAA would threaten Canada like that. Then the destruction came and I never read or heard about that Salman Rushdie thing again.
An obvious bluff. If it comes to that, the US needs NORAD more than we do. Also, the US can no longer be considered an ally.

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