Fairphone 6 Netherlands, Nothing Phone 3 Britain, Jolla Phone Finland, Volla Quintus Germany.

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[โ€“] 202 points 8 months ago (36 children)

Isn't Nothing practically a Chinese brand with just the marketing department working in the UK?

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  • [โ€“] 28 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Yes. It is a Chinese company with american investors with non-technical jobs in the UK to be able to claim "UK company" for marketing.

    Their electronics are designed only in China, the devices are programmed only in China, their software is developed in China their technical job postings are all in China for years, their CEO ran a previous Chinese owned brand (lying/misleading about the company back then too) and has worked in the Chinese phone industry for 15 years.

    Their CMF line and wearables lines are all ODM'ed through various Chinese companies (for those not aware, OEM is where something is designed by a company and manufactured by another where ODM is where everything is designed by another company and the branded company just gives requirements and some input, I worked previously for an ODM kind of company) and are generic widely-available hardware marked up for brand name recognition.

    Their marketing is in the UK, that's about it.

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  • [โ€“] 21 points 8 months ago*

    I had an RMA claim with nothing a few days ago and wow, did I hate it. They threw every stone they could find at me, and then managed to "forget" a part of the money they owed me.

    Which is a shame, because I really dig their design. But fuck them.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 8 months ago

    I'm not too familiar how the company is managed, but I have Nothing 3. It's fine. Nothing special (unless you count the flashing lights on the back), gets the job done but so does pretty much every other android-based slab. At least it isn't full of vendor forced crap like samsung.

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    [โ€“] 56 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    to add another (german) brand: https://www.shift.eco/

    I had the shiftphone6 back in 2018 and I believe it had an alternative OS installed, in any case I can't remember the google play store pre-installed (correct me if I'm wrong).

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    [+] 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)
  • [โ€“] 33 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    What you get for the price is a European phone. No way it can compete on hardware/price with other phones.

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Are they manufactured in Europe, though, or just another chinese smartphone with an OS that's not Android or iOS?

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  • [โ€“] 41 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    They are all so fucking huge! Can't anyone make a good <= 6" Phone anymore?

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    [โ€“] 28 points 8 months ago

    Wait what? Jolla? Not only does that company exist, they are also making phones again? Really wasn't expecting to see that name ever again.

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  • [โ€“] 21 points 8 months ago

    I'll pick Jolla. I hope their new phone will be good.

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Fairphone has an atrocious update policy. They do not care for security.

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I highly recommend the e/os for the fairphones. Security wise it's really great! And with the installer not that hard to install (imo)

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Itโ€™s more private than the Android version it ships with but not more secure

    Usually this isnโ€™t an issue though, depends on your threat model of course

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  • [โ€“] 15 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I just wish there was a way to get the Fairphone in the U.S. I love the repairability aspect and I already use LineageOS as my main OS to keep my devices as long as possible. I also have access to a 3D printer to build accessories and parts for them too.

    A good idea if you can't buy Euro is to buy used and flash LineageOS if your device is supported. I'm using a Pixel 4a 5G as my driver with LineageOS since I know how to repair it and I have easy access to parts for them. (Thanks to buying bulk parts from local offices near me that used them.)

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    [โ€“] 13 points 8 months ago* (8 children)

    I bought a fairphone 6 recently. It works as you would expect any phone to work with no noticeable downsides.

    I paid extra to have /e/OS preinstalled. I could have bought the android version and upgraded it myself, but I wanted to support open source development. I want to try Ubuntu touch, but it hasn't been updated for the fairphone 6 yet.

    I can't use any banking apps on /e/OS by default, but that's because the apps require google play services for "security". Enabling these services is possible, but would defeat the purpose of getting the phone to de-google. Bank websites still work, just slightly less convenient.

    I dislike the case. It leaves more of the phone exposed than I would like. It does seem to protect the phone from most drops though.

    I'm still disappointed by the lack of headphone jack, but I hate Google more.

    I was surprised that my favourite feature became the hardware switch. I rebound it to the torch. For moments when you want a light for just a few seconds, it's so much more convenient.

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    [โ€“] 13 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    the only problem I have is that I cannot install my banking app ๐Ÿซค

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    [โ€“] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I just want a dumbphone with a decent camera

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    [โ€“] 12 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    If one of these phones runs GrapheneOS, I would be interested.

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