Literally argued with a bunch of game-pass supporters on this very topic today, where we don't own shit anymore and everything is rental only. Sick of people gobbling corporate cock.

It's always ethical to pirate from Adobe.

Tangentially related... I work IT in a CNC shop. Most engineering prints that we get to make parts to have various specs on them for materials and various finishes. Those specs used to be free years ago, but they've most all been replaced, but not really updated at all. Now everytime they have a revision change, we have to buy the new revision from SAE for like $70 a piece. As shitty as that already is, in recent years, they have DRM locked them to a single user. So while we have 50+ employees with multiple needing to reference these for quality inspection or processing, it's against the ToS to share those specs. We are supposed to buy one for each user which is fucking bogus.

Fuck em. I screen snip each page and make a new PDF, or that one user prints it out and scans it in. The extra kicker is that while that's not allowed, you can buy a paper copy that can be shared for the same cost, you just have to wait for it to be delivered.

As someone that had to deal with adobe for 5 years for an 800 person studio. Fuck Adobe. For the rest of forever.

I signed up for creative cloud and accidentally signed for a year. They want 60$ to cancel the subscription. Suck my taint.

Hey adobe, how about you stop contacting everyone in our organization using a single non-profit license of a single product and telling them we should all be on a single cloud account so we can pay several times more for the same thing just to get access to sharing services no one wants?

Firefox is getting the ability to edit PDFs. Its not quite ready for prod so I use SumatraPDF

If you think Adobe is bad just wait until you have to deal with Autodesk.

Ah yes true sysadmin energy in this post

This is just one reason why 2013 was basically the worst year ever. I'll never forgive or forget what Adobe had done that year. It's just insane.

Have you had a look at the Affinity suite? It certainly can't replace everything, but for many users like me it's not really missing anything for a one time payment.

Our company is using nitro pro for editing PDF.

GIMP, Da Vinci Resolve, Blender

I've been able to steer 2 companies and my own business to adobe alternatives. Fuck, paying rent on software.

The CEO of Adobe (Shantanu Narayen) is a greedy bastard.

Feel free to share, this is a safe space…

Yeah, I really don’t get how — what their thinking is— let’s drive our users crazy because no one will ever leave us

The hell?

Expensive as hell, it insists I use their insecure office add on “PDF Maker” but people around here find it worth $350 a year to be able to merge pdf’s from the context menu so I’m stuck trying to find ways to support it with out compromising the network. I hate the adobe suite

All I want is Lightroom classic for photo organization and I have to subscribe. Like come on.

Still using Photoshop 2003. It does what I need.

I literally just wanted to esign a document the other day, and in order to get the functionality I wanted ONE TIME, I had to create an account, give them my credit card info for a free trial, let Acrobat Reader download all the other functionality I didn't need, which took 10 minutes. The program crashed, buttons didn't work, it didn't save the first time.

I fucking hate Adobe.

What's a good PDF editor that does e-signatures that I don't have to pay a long-term subscription for? Foxit is nice, but requires a subscription.