2018
Ah yes, when he held the extremely influential and prestigious governmental office of checks notes former vice president
2018
Ah yes, when he held the extremely influential and prestigious governmental office of checks notes former vice president
Okay. If this was an example of influence peddling, let's pursue it. Let's also investigate the billions of dollars the Saudis invested into Kushner while he was operating from the White House.
Yeah 200 thou is so much money he needs to prove it was actually loan repayment.
Now if it was 2 million dollars from the Saudis…. Well that’s totally different!
Billion with a B.
Only off by 1000x. A tiny mistake, really.
These allegations apply way more to Trump than Biden. The hypocrisy is real
That's why they're making such weak accusations: to make people tired of the whole exercise so that when credible accusations are made against Trump "moderates" can say 'both sides! this is just what political parties do against their opponents' and ignore the strength of the evidence.
The crime appears to be that President Biden didn’t charge his brother interest.
One day they're gonna get one of these right and not know how to deal with it.
Yeah, but nothing about the Lewinsky scandal was actually illegal. It's not illegal to cheat on your wife. They only found out about Lewinsky because they were looking for evidence related to the Whitewater scandal. The only thing criminal Bill Clinton provably did was lie under oath about getting a hummer in the oval office. That's a pretty minor lie, tbh, and they never connected him to any illegal activity related to Whitewater. They tried to make a huge scandal out of a clandestine blowjob, and the only people who cared were religious purists who never would have voted Democrat anyway. Instead, Republicans made fools of themselves on a national stage, and it cost them elections.
I'm not really disagreeing with you here, except to say the Republicans didn't really "get it right" with Lewinsky. They did seethe and writhe and dig their heels hard into religious fascism. But I thought it worth highlighting that the Lewinsky scandal was not as scandalous as they wanted us to believe, nor was it even the thing they were trying to pass off as scandalous in the first place. It was an excuse to open an investigation in the hopes it might reveal something that would stick. That's the same thing they're doing now. They know there's no connection here. They know there's no evidence. But it appeals to their waning voting base and gives them an excuse to find something that makes Biden look as bad as Trump.
Here's how hard the Republicans were digging for dirt on Clinton:
When they started the Whitewater investigation, Monica Lewinsky did not yet work at the White House. It was literally an ongoing investigation looking for a crime.
You’re overlooking some things here. Just a few years prior, Clarence Thomas had just undergone an intensive and public trial for sexual harassment of Anita HIll. Meanwhile, a sea change of public opinion against sexual harassment in the workplace was underway in practically every corner of the country. At that time, if you were a federal employee, you could get in serious trouble for abusing your position of power like that. But of course, the President isn’t a federal employee.
This was not just a minor lie and a clandestine blowjob. It was someone in a position of power taking advantage of a subordinate, in the workplace, and doing irrevocable harm to that subordinate’s reputation in the process.
Finally, just because something isn’t a criminal offense doesn’t make it acceptable. Nor does the fact that the Republicans seized on this for political gain make it less wrong.
I do think the Lewinsky thing paid it's dividend in 2016 because it made it harder to respect Hillary who was still with Bill after the most famous case of being cheated on. There were a lot of factors that went into that election going the way it did, but with it so close in the end, each factor ended up being important.
If she'd divorced him, they would have used that against her instead.
Objection your honor, conjecture.
Oh shit, my bad this is the court of public opinion.
We must start holding our politicians accountable.
Who writes a personal check for $200,000? It's been a really long time since I've written a check, but I think that 3rd '0' would trigger my anxiety, I would start sweating on the 4th, and the 5th one would make me break down and cry.
It’s nothing to the rich, they lend each other what we consider crazy sums all the time but to them it’s not a big deal since they have more than they’ll ever need. Joe isn’t fuck you rich, but he’s certainly comfortable enough that floating a sibling a house worth of cash isn’t out of question
I didn’t know for sure but $200k sounded cheap for house money. I looked it up - the median home price in the us is about 350k. Jesus.
To be fair, even middle class people lend or give each other big sums of money when it’s family. It’s hard to afford a down payment, pay for college, or start a business without help from family.
I mean, I did it and quite a bit more when I bought a house. That down payment check was the largest I ever wrote.
I mean at Biden's level you don't. You call your financial advisor and have them shuffle money around and print the check.
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