The worst-case scenario is now a possible one: European troops fighting off an invasion largely alone.

It’s by no means clear the Europeans would succeed. Romanian and other European officials at the exercise in Cincu, about 260 kilometers (162 miles) north of Bucharest by road, voiced concerns about how long it would take for NATO allies to make it to the front.

French four-star General Philippe de Montenon said he’s confident Europe could prevail, even without the US on side. “The direction of history is a progressive disengagement of the United States from the European continent,” he said.

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[–] 41 points 9 months ago (3 children)

10 comments and the pro Russia bots are already here

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 9 months ago*

    Such is life currently: hyperbolic questions in ironic comments like " have you proof about Ruzz agression, because the West..." etc.

    Smh, about the contrast between their potential to embrace a grand selfdeception and the arrogant stubbornness to look away from the invasive destruction and killings Shahed drones cause on a daily bases for more than a thousand days.

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    [–] 28 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    NATO/EU needs to start moving resources more into place. This will cause putin to have to move troops out of Ukraine to balance.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Let the comments here be a friendly reminder to people that they should block and boycott the .ml instance

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I missed the drama. This was the first Lemmy account I made. Is this server overrun with bots now?

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    So the .ml stands for Marxist Lenin... Just to get you started.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Not really, .ml stands for Mali domain. And just because someone believes in Marxist principle or communism isn't a issue. Personally for me why I am wary of .ml domain is because often I do see people posting obvious Chinese and North Korean propoganda with shady source and wild claims and their refusal to accept criticism of China or other communist past and present regimes. Also they get really defensive and assume you are pro west or pro imperialism when you happen to criticize china for something and then their whole argument would be bashing the west when both are to fault.

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    [–] 21 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Meanwhile USA is fully prepared to comfort Russia.

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    [–] 19 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    That is for the best. The US is a hostile power, and allowing it to embed enemy troops or sabotage NATO operations should not be permitted. Europe is better off without the traitorous Trump Regime.

    It sucks that it has to be this way, but to deny the intent and nature of the current United States, is to invite disaster.

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    [–] 16 points 9 months ago (26 children)

    Thankfully Russia can't afford to stretch themselves much more. I implore them to try something it shouldn't take much to fuck them at this point.

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    [–] 14 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    It’s by no means clear the Europeans would succeed. Romanian and other European officials at the exercise in Cincu, about 260 kilometers (162 miles) north of Bucharest by road, voiced concerns about how long it would take for NATO allies to make it to the front.

    Those two things are not synonymous.

    Romanian military are concerned it would take allies time to get to the front (I.e. it would take time for NATO to mobilise in the event of an unanticipated invasion of Romania). However firstly that doesn't mean victory wouldn't be ultimately achieved (allied forces had a bad time of it during the first part of the second world war, but ultimately were victorious) and secondly it assumes that Russia would be able to rally its forces (what forces) and initiate a surprise invasion despite Europe heavily monitoring Russian military activity. Which all seems unlikely.

    I'm also unclear about why 260 km is considered an insurmountable distance. In an emergency that distance could be covered in a couple of hours, (I'm assuming that liberation forces and not required to obey the speed limit) presumably everyone would be going the other way in any case.

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    [–] 9 points 9 months ago (18 children)

    it would really be something else if they fought them off successfully and the united states looked like pussies and assholes

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    They already do. US is currently the only country pushing for surrender (note, it's not just Ukraine, peace plan forces stuff from US too, including industry help and money) while negotiating with terrorists. It will take a very long time for me to see US in the same light I used to. Imagine US surrendering to ISIS. Beyond humiliating.

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    [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    French four-star General Philippe de Montenon said he’s confident Europe could prevail, even without the US on side.

    This is discussed too rarely. Does anybody know of a source that makes a reliable comparison?

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    Well, France has the second or third largest/most powerful individual Navy in the world, and Russia has severely diminished trained personnel, so unless China enters it would be a one sided massacre in Europe's favor.

    Probably why Russia has worked so hard on the south of Ukraine to secure the sea border even losing territory in the north.

    The issue is when China enters, and whose side they will be on. Does Xi Jinpooh see more profit in helping his cabal of friendly dictators or would he just carve out a slice of the Russia Pie?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    How much can one bullet cost?

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