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[–] [email protected] 184 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I was wondering where the US was. Then I scrolled to the right.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s not a good look. Oof.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Worse than a bad look. It's a humanitarian tragedy.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Life expectancy as a function of spending is parabolic confirmed? New theory: if you spend more than $22,000 on healthcare per capita, life expectancy will be negative

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hospitals just explicitly kill you and they take all your belongings as payment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Actually can happen if you're dark skinned in America. Lots of sketchy cases that happen to struggling folks of dark skin

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Took me forever to find them. Was about to complain in the comments lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Really stands out doesn't it

[–] [email protected] 98 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Take this as a warning, UK.

Your NHS will get even fucking worse and cost three and a half times as much, and somehow a large portion of you stupid fucks are clamoring for US style private insurance rather than making the fucking Tories do their job.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Unfortunately, in case you're unfamiliar with UK politics, making life as miserable as possible is the whole government's thing at the moment and the majority don't support them. Please do not call us stupid fucks though, we are their victims, perhaps figure out how to send help, get us invaded, anything to get rid of them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Unfortunately, the majority of us are fucking stupid. We voted for Brexit...

The other possibility is that the younger voters are even more stupid by not voting.

Either way, politically stupid or stupid lazy.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Remember, remember, the fifth of November. And kick a Tory in the cock on the that day. Good start.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Do we have to only do it one day a year?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Add Australia to that warning.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Only Denmark has a Beveridge funding model. Most of the places at the top of the chart have a social insurance model (Bismarck).

Ultimately whatever the model, the UK has really low capital investment which is starting to show severely now.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago

Take this with a grain of salt. For example sweden spends much more on healthcare than spain but they achieve the same in life expectancy because swedish doctors get payed more and sweden is in the north where there are other problems to deal with(mental health) and people generally live shorter lives. The us is fucked up no matter how you look at it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

A life expectancy almost as high as China and we only had to spend 13 times the amount of money.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I knew it was bad in the US. I did not know it is THAT bad.

Lots of profits to protect. The lobbying must be intense. Total shitshow.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The lobbying must be intense.

The Sackler family, the shitbags most directly responsible for the opioid epidemic in the US, were handed a sweetheart settlement deal where they had to hand over a small percentage of their multi-billion dollar fortunes and in return they were SHIELDED FROM PROSECUTION on any related charges or civil suits.

Luckily even our shitbag Supreme Court could see what utter scumfuck horseshit that was and tossed the deal out the window and into a garbage bin where it belonged.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Note that pretty much every other country than US in this list, the USD amount is how much the country pays per person in healthcare. Universal healthcare, baby.

So in Finland my healthcare has cost me roughly $10/year.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looking like the Japanese have it dialed in, eh?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not to lump it in South Korea, but Koreans stay active and going out for many more years than other countries.

While the healthcare is good, I'm sure the "not staying at home" is better.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

And yet this, too, is driven by terrible political decisions that practically force Americans to drive even the shortest distances. As a European, your cities and towns are extremely aggressive towards pedestrians and cyclists.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

And fat shaming is also a normal thing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Is this data old? India's life expectancy is now 70+ according to World Bank. Eithercase, I am impressed by China. They had a life expectancy of ~36 years in 1949 when PRC was established. They lagged behind both India and Pakistan for quite some time(cough Mao cough) but then took such a steep climb upwards.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

But privatization makes everything cheaper and more efficient morshupls

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

American Exceptionalism

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What're they doing in Costa Rica?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Bunch of rich retired people move there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Im not sure, but the evidence is worth investigating. Guess Im going to Costa Rica.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Cuba's life expectancy is too high and their expenditure too low to fit on the graph, very funny shit

Also USA is way higher than 12k a year, what was this from, 20 years ago? Last I saw was like 28k

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I feel like if this was on Reddit there would be people commenting "Based USA".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

To separate the effect of demographic differences from the expenditure, might help to divide by an age-weighted population, rather than simply per capita. Also, is this expenditure converted to US$ in MER or PPP (for services the latter makes more sense)?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Would the graph look slight more narrow if we accounted for median or average country income? Me spending 12k dollars a year in the us is very different than in Mexico, depending on where I get me income from.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As a South African.. damn..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah man... Wtf

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Thailand on NHSO: Whatever, just take this paracetamol and shut up. NEXT.

Thailand on Social Security: $25 per month per person forever. Oh, it doesn't cover mental health or Risperidone or whatever. NEXT.

Thailand on Govt Officer (NOT Govt Employee) Healthcare: How may I be of assistance today milord?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is not a fair comparison. The American medical system has to keep Americans alive while the Spanish medical system merely has to keep Spaniards alive. It is a medical miracle that Americans get to live above the age of 70 on average with their lifestyles.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Same with Italy. The national health-care system barely works, but you know what they say about the Italian lifestyle...

Also, lol I didn't even noticed USA was there before your comment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

If you want hookers and cocaine you join the USA health insurance corporations

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