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[–] 119 points 10 months ago

I hate agreeing with fucking 4chan but fair

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  • [–] 71 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    Having Fedi folks agreeing with 4chan is not on my bingo card this year, or ever.

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    [–] 65 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Well the internet is written mostly by bots. Everything needs Id and spying. We may end up building a new internet so fuck the old internet

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  • [–] 72 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    We’ll build a new internet with blackjack and hookers.

    Just like it used to be.

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    [–] 57 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I might not like what you have to say, but I'll defend to death, your right to say it kinda shit

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Within reason. Libel, incitement to violence, hate speech, etc, should be illegal for obvious reasons

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    There is an obvious reason why countries like Germany make a strong stance against any "trolling" nazi joke/imagery/salute.

    But America's First Amendment seems to not understand that reason (or only understand when it is weaponized against communism, black people, trans rights and all the "woke culture" stuff)

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    But America’s First Amendment seems to not understand that reason (or only understand when it is weaponized against communism, black people, trans rights and all the “woke culture” stuff)

    Like alot of things in the USA, laws are selectively enforced to protect the status quo.

    "Youre anti fascist? Youre a terrorist!"

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Everyone has a different definition, but yeah generally free speech in an ideal sense extends to just before you start causing what a reasonable person would concern harm to someone.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Fuck that. People spreading racial hate and public lies with the intention to mislead the public should be locked up.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I would say intent matters and while it's impossible to truly determine it, we still have a distinction for murder/manslaughter and negligence.

    If a politician lies or hides something for personal gain, that should be illegal, but there's so much stuff the state does where it's best if the general public don't know, public order would probably break down pretty quickly otherwise.

    Same with racial hate. If it's just stating an opinion, fine, I probably don't agree but go ahead. If you're actively trying to harm (mentally, economically, socially or physically) that group, or inciting others to do the same, then that's not fine.

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    [–] 52 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    It's ridiculous for the UK to issue fines to a company who doesn't operate in the country. Just block access if that's whatever your stupid laws dictate.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    EU fined number of tech giants before, this is not new. If you have users and derive income from a country, you are operating in this country.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Those tech giants operate in the EU and have EU customers. 4Chan does neither and stores no user data. At that point the onus is on the user and the UK/EU should be going after their own citizens that use it if they have a problem with it being used. Ideally, they wouldn't go after anyone but here we are.

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    [–] 44 points 10 months ago

    Welp, i agree with 4chan.

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  • [–] 37 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Inb4 major Lemmy instances get banned

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    At least they are a little less fucked now lmao

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago

    4chan is an extreme example of an unmoderated site - indeed it's what the OSA was designed to combat. If this legislative test fails, it would undermine the acts legitimacy, and provoke questions as to it's existence.

    It's a shit law - it's not fit for purpose. Its sole reason for existence is to controle public speech, not protect the children.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I would normally be sympathetic to their stand except earlier this year when this first started, they called on Trump to use all available political leverages to prevent this and protect free speech. Calling on Trump to protect free speech is just absolutely ridiculous.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago

    hands on hips "That'll stop them." /s

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I never thought I'd be siding with 4chan.

    Just to let you know I was never a 4chan user.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    UK is ultra lame for this.

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    [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    I didn't expect in my life to side with 4chan

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Send a 'smart' fine. Check mate, shitposters.

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    [+] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)
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