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Goodwill Isn’t a Platform (thoughts on the Digg beta) (lemmy.zip)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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The new Digg feels a lot like the same ole’ Reddit. The mobile app is basically a clone, even down to the pointless “Trending” bar at the top.

There’s no API support yet, no plan for federation, and no guardrails to stop the slow slide into bloat (notice the Digg Daily AI podcast?) and ads we’ve all seen before.

Right now the only thing holding it together is the community, and the goodwill of Kevin Rose and the team. I respect them, but goodwill isn’t a plan.

Leadership changes. Platforms change. When money starts talking, users always pay the price.

No federation? No thank you.

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[–] 52 points 11 months ago (1 child)

Haven’t been on new Reddit in a while (anytime I go I use ‘old.’).

Is the first 70% of the screen really an ad?

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    • [–] 38 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I checked it out. It's not a ghost town, but I feel like there is less activity than on federated platforms. It doesnt have the critical number of people talking about stuff to be interesting and actually result in dialog.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It actually is a ghost town. There's so little engagement, and even the upvote-counts seemingly aren't obfuscated, and are super low.

    There's also already a lot of conservative trolls who will flame for "MUH SPEECH" if you suggest that they're an annoying conservative. "Hey man, I'm just asking the questions". In a ghost town, they appear louder.

    My theory is that people just don't want to comment anymore. We all learned our lesson. If we comment, we just feed the AI beast. I'm not offering my insights and opinions so that you can scrape them.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Alternative platforms always start with the people that aren't welcome in the old ones - Lemmy was literally originally made as a communist safespace:

    Fuck the white supremacist Reddit admins, want me to set up a self hosted one for /r/communism?
    Hey all, longtime Marxist-leninist, recorder of left audiobooks, and megathread shitposter here.
    ...
    So I've spent the past few months working on a self hostable, federated, Reddit alternative called Lemmy, and it's pretty much ready to go. Unlike here we'd have ultimate control over all content, and would never have to self censor.
    ...
    Raddle isn't an option obviously since it's run by this arch anti tankie scum, ziq.

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    • [–] 35 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    AI bad me no likey

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    • [–] 28 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    The mobile app is basically a clone

    Amazing. Make loads of noise about snagging Christian from Apollo to be a part of the relaunch, then make an app that has nowhere near the charm of Apollo.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Meanwhile someone made an open source version of Apollo for Lemmy and it's great. Voyager is the name for anyone not aware yet (though I think most have heard)

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    • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    no plan for federation, and no guardrails to stop the slow slide into bloat

    What would be an example of a guardrail to stop the slow slide into bloat?

    I'm not asking for a detailed explanation, but I simply can't understand what sort of feature you're imagining.

    I sort of get the idea that maybe you just mean that you're already seeing the beginnings of bloat, but if there was something that could actually stop bloat, that sounds very interesting.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I’m not an expert, but my understanding is that federation adds significant complexity to the system. Even simple features take careful planning, so there’s a natural friction that prevents new features from being added carelessly.

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    • [–] 17 points 11 months ago

    Why leave Lemmy for Lemmy-Junior?

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    [–] 16 points 11 months ago

    Why would anyone give any air to the Digg people, they are sell out ?
    They do not deserve a microsecond of attention and people who don't know them should be saved from becoming their victims.
    We all left Digg and empowered Reddit, and Reddit also ducked us.
    How many times do you have to get burned on that hot stove to STOP DUCKING TOUCHING IT ??

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    [–] 15 points 11 months ago

    Fuck reddit and digg. Worthless. Lemmy is way better in every respect.

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    [+] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
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    [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Is it bad that I automatically don't take them seriously just based on their links to socials? Didn't even go for a Bluesky (let alone anything federated) and going for twitter and instagram like it's still 2019.

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    [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    I'll comment on that story on the screenshot

    Printer with DRM-free ink

    Uses HP cartridges

    Those two sentences are mutually exclusive

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    [+] -6 points 11 months ago

    Can i get an invite code?

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