Ariana Grande (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works

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[–] 299 points 11 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] [S] 125 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    We've reached the point of idiocracy where everything needs to be read aloud.

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  • [–] 51 points 11 months ago

    No, we haven't. Quit comparing everything to idiocracy; it was overly optimistic compared to reality.

    Our problem is not well-meaning stupid people. Our problem is malevolent smart people leading hateful stupid people.

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    [–] 148 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    That's a rational question. Unfortunately it won't get the desired result, because the target audience is not going to behave rationally:

    • The media that they consume is following the fascist playbook. They're telling the audience that if things are not better yet, then it's because there are others still left to blame, and the worse things get the harder those others are going to be blamed for it.
    • Even if someone moves past that propaganda, it's been ingrained into them that to accept being incorrect is to admit failure. They've been primed to dig in and double down, lest their peers see them as a failure, or even worse as others.
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  • [–] 96 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    Yes. They are happier.

    They aren’t interested in making life better for anyone. They want it shittier for everyone else rather than actually improve themselves so they don’t have exert any effort or make sacrifices. The suffering they do get from trump’s policies is unexpected or “worth it” to fuck over everyone else.

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  • [–] 36 points 11 months ago

    Exactly, it doesn't matter if Trump's administration makes life worse for MAGA supporters. He could make their lives a living hell for all they care, arguably they're already there. His supporters just want to see people they don't like get hurt. That's it, they want to witness cruelty. Any conservative who didn't jump off MAGA band wagon a long time ago has fully drank the cool-aid.

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    [–] 69 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    I don't like Ariana's music, but I respect her as a person and she's very talented at what she does. Despite people constantly making fun of her.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    I'll admit, I used to be in the anti-Ariana crowd after the whole donut thing surfaced. (Despite being a dumb teen when it happened who, despite not doing things similar, could understand the social pressure of doing it.) But every interview snippet I've seen with her has shown that she's got a good head on her shoulders and most importantly isn't afraid to tell people they're being a jackass on live television.

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    [–] 57 points 11 months ago

    They just want someone to suffer more than them

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago* (10 children)

    Respect to her for being brave enough, as a public figure, and risking an endless torrent of backlash.

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    [–] 42 points 11 months ago* (14 children)

    This is not how some Trump voters I know think at all; it's not how they think of Trump. Bring up any of these points and they'd think you're totally paranoid.

    I witnessed a group of old guys watching the movie 'One Battle After Another' scratch their heads and have literally, honestly no idea what it was about.

    It's because they're in the habit of watching Fox News or other 'old' media. Trump's just some Republican like they've always voted for with a bunch of hysterical finger pointers, and any Democrat is basically Jimmy Carter or Hillary Clinton.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago* (13 children)

    That's only a portion of Trump voters though. There are a lot of younger voters with less ingrained brain washing that came recently from new media.

    I honestly don't know what you do about the people you are speaking of. I have some in my extended family and there is no convincing them of things after 3 decades of programming. Even foundational knowledge isn't the same.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    You tell them that Donald Trump is a felon. He committed 34 felonies. He was found guilty by a jury. But the judge decided not to punish him. It's a crime that normally gets prison time and Donald Trump belongs in prison, but the judge was scared. They'll try to deflect and make excuses and every time they do, you just repeat "Donald Trump is a felon"

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Yeah at some point folks get too old to change. You can try to get them off Fox News at least, but it just depends. Sometimes you can't. Sometimes they really can't even learn a new kind of remote/cable or whatever.

    Younger folks are deep down the influencer rabbit hole, and I don't know what to do about that (other than pushing Fediverse) since Big Tech has such an iron grip on everything. I mean, the future is definitely cyberpunk.

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  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Ariana didn’t write this. That Instagram person Matt did, and Ariana reposted it.

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Literally everybody is suffering and about to have a mental breakdown but some of them enjoy seeing other ppl suffer and that’s literally the only happiness in this land

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago

    Yeah. A comment that stuck with me is "the type that would happily eat shit just to make others smell their breath". These types will suffer just so they can hurt others. They're hateful as fuck

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  • [+] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (12 children)
  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    I keep asking the conservatives in my life this. Thanos snap, all migrants are gone, how has your life improved? The only straight answer I've gotten was a creative use of math to show how much the US would save on benefits. Their proof relied on an omission from their source about who is going to lose benefits. The cost of enforcement, detention and removal was outside the bounds of the original question.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    creative use of math to show how much the US would save on benefits

    As anyone who's ever seen a paystub can figure out, illegal immigrants pay for benefits (social security & medicare) they are ineligible to receive, ie, they subsidize everyone else's benefits. Their payroll withholdings also pay taxes at all levels. So, I'm curious how they figure cutting those subsidies saves.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    The only straight answer I've gotten was a creative use of math to show how much the US would save on benefits.

    And let me guess: that doesn't consider the increase in expenses going towards funding ICE...

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    [–] 24 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yes.

    Whether they want to admit it or not, that was the whole point - spite and making the people that make you feel insecure suffer out of spite.

    It's a form of social regression that people in the Balkans like to sum up by saying "It's not important that I feel good. What's important is that the other person suffers."

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    [–] 17 points 11 months ago

    You know what, unfortunately for some in the target demographic the answer is yes. Those who capitulated and got jobs as ice agents got a huge sign on bonus and livable salary. Bribed to terrorize

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago

    Of course the answer is yes. They want the suffering. Everything else was just an excuse. They voted for the suffering of others, got the suffering of others, and are happy. Even if the price of groceries, gas, and everything else is higher, they don't mind because they got what they really wanted.

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    [–] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Too confrontarional, the people who should read it will stop after the first sentence.

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