Tbh I don't mind proprietary apps, so long as the user experience is good.
I don't mind the ui nudges to buy nitro - the server costs have to come from somewhere - but if discord starts seriously serving ads, I'm gone.
I've been excitedly following the matrix project for years, but I'm in a lot of unique discord servers that would never move short of catastrophe. The network effect is too strong to shake the apathetic. We'll win the long game with matrix, but it might take a while.
jokes on you i got overwhelmed by every channel being split into a gajillion chats anyway
Nah. Discord is the most accessible, if we’re talking about blind folks and accessibility. I tried using Element, and yikes!!! No. Cant read a single convo. In Discord, I can go back as far as necessary till I catch up. Tried other apps, too, and they all do the same thing.
How is the vision-impared accessibility with Lemmy? Obviously good enough that you're using it but I'm curious how the experience is.
Not sure if my comment went through, but the site is ok for replying to comments. The app, Mlem, is good for browsing communities except when it randomly crashes.
Thanks for replying, both comments came through! I'm not shocked that mlem is having some issues, since it's in like the Apple version of early access. Thankfully, it seems like the community here so far are the kind of people who care more about accessibility than Reddit ever did.
Oh absolutely! I have contacted Reddit a few times and all they would say is that they think Reddit should be used by everyone, and they’re working on accessibility. Yet, when I update the app, it somehow gets worse! Clearly, they don’t care, or they’d have made the exzemption to third-party apps that focus on accessibility sooner, rather than when blind folks were banging on their door, wanting better.
The Mlem app keeps crashing all of a sudden, so I hate that. And making a community is kinda strange. I get to the “create” button and when I press it, it says, “match the…” but I don’t know what the rest is cuz the screen reader stops.
I only ever joined Discord for friends. Leaving would mean losing all friends, not even a select bunch. They're not moving and while some may care that it's upsetting, it's a collective bunch that needs convincing. Friends of friends of friends. People aren't jumping ship for one person to also not have their other friends not jump ship.
Reddit is a community but doesn't have the more casual chat that friends use (well they have it now, but it was never good).
Discord pretty much has to burn bridges like Reddit did before anyone moves.
Time is a flat circle. We’re going back to IRC, boys.
I knew you'd all be back!
Discord doesn't really block 3rd party apps. Technically, they are against ToS, but unless you're doing something bad, it's seen as okay by the discord staff.
But yes, it's quite the closed ecosystem obviously. There are no 3rd party clients that implement all features, mostly due to the fact that it's all closed source.
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What like .... Oh idk dropping the discriminator and forcing a new system that will encourage account selling/scamming?
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I really wish there was a selfhosted E2EE chat, video, stream app with client for windows, linux and android. Already tried element but it's a pain to make it work just fine, even when i tried to federate it, it took so much time to get into other communities. Maybe I'm used to simplicity and 'optimization' that discord has but i would like a selfhosted clone tbh. I really dislike the way the discord is taking already. Same as for reddit it's hard to convince ppl to move over and then again scatter everyone to other apps/places. Geez, fck this, please.
I'd love to leave discord, but I know to many people that use it and will not budge on leaving. I am stuck with it.
So unless discord makes a very serious boneheaded mistake and double down on it like Reddit did... I don't see many people leaving.
While I love the sentiment, I have to say leaving Discord was one of the worst choices I ever made, not because Discord is inherently better, but because of the friends on it. I was in a very different state mentally and left without warning, and I regret it everyday, even though I'm back on Discord and some of my friends were willing to accept me, I still get a very intense feeling that what I did was unforgivable and I shouldn't be given this chance to talk with them again. It feels like leaving someone waiting for a high five and returning it months later when the hype is gone... I'm mostly inactive because I feel so wrong and I really don't deserve friends that are so nice. While I made the choice to leave and I knew the consequences, I don't wish anyone else to make that same mistake, leave with confidence, not with a cloudy mindset, worsening depression, and way less friends.
The part about it being unforgivable sounds extreme. How can there be "consequences" for simply temporarily opting out of a chat app?
Losing touch with friends for a while definitely sucks but if you need a break from literally an app then real friends will accept that.
I left way more than once, so leaving several times and expecting people to accept you again and again sounds like a chore and not everyone is going to keep accepting you.
I don't think other people see it that way. It's very common for people on discord to disappear for days/months then pop back in.
Yeah I suppose thats true, I was very much in a different mental state when I left, so much so I deleted my account, one person I was good friends with checked in with my phone number and made sure I was okay. I only wanted to share my experience because some others viewing might be in a similar state I was in, terrified of technology and *almost left it all behind. I have very good people though and I couldnt be more thankful. :)
I don't think anyone blames you for leaving. Social networks are notoriously bad for mental health. And I think everyone takes a break from time to time. You don't deserve to feel so bad. 💜
Thank you :) From one internet surfer to another, your comment was acknowledged and very appreciated. I wish social media wasn't as prevalent as it currently is, but still nonetheless I appreciate the kind words and the time you took to write! <3
There's not really any good alternative for large communities. The amount of tools available on Discord in the form of bots is so useful, any other platform they move to needs to have that as well.
Discord didn't have this at launch but it grew.
Yeah but now that it has it people aren't going to leave. We need the alternatives to be good before they leave, they can't migrate now and have it be good later.
Do we also have alternatives to Discord?
Element is a great client for matrix. It functions similarly to Discord.
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