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[-] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago

Seems like if the captain survived he should be charged for the deaths of his crew members. He was given a clear order by Yemeni forces in their territorial waters and ignored it. He might as well have sunk the ship himself.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Wtf is a "European Naval Force" is this what they're calling mercenary companies these days?

[-] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

The Eternity C bulk carrier had been heading north toward the Suez Canal when it came under fire by men in small boats and by bomb-carrying drones on Monday night. Security guards on board also fired their weapons. The European Union Operation Aspides and the private security firm Ambrey both reported those details.

Not clear to me if they were actually "mariners" or basically soldiers.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

the security detail was reportedly 3 people with 22 crew according to this, which i would personally trust to report maritime things better than cbs

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

awwww the poor genocide enablers died?

fuck-around

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Unfortunately, I don't think ship crew (other than the captain and navigator) get much of a choice in where the ship goes.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Do you suppose they didn't know what the job was until they got out to sea?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

I think they usually don't have visas to enter countries they're docking at, so they can't really elect to leave the ship

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

So the scenario here is that they live in country A, make some delivery to country B, and over the course of or just after that delivery they get an assignment to deliver something else to country C, such that they had no idea they'd be going there when they were in country A? I admit that I don't know how the logistics work here.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

generally you sign on to a company, the company assigns you to a ship and you crew it for ~6-10 months usually, wherever it goes
a lot of crew are from the Philippines, as was the case with this ship

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

And the shipping isn't all mapped out ship-by-ship that far in advance, so they likely found out that they'd be going in these waters after they had been on assignment and outside of e.g. the Philippines for some time? Is that right?

Well, I suppose either way my stance is that it's mainly the company's fault for endangering the crew, since it would be irresponsible for Houthis to allow human shield tactics to perpetuate the genocide.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

so they likely found out that they’d be going in these waters after they had been on assignment and outside of e.g. the Philippines for some time? Is that right?

pretty much, yeah

ultimately the responsibility lies with the captain, he needlessly endangered the crew by refusing to comply with the Houthis' orders

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

"European" "Naval" "Force"

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

The ship has docked at Israeli ports in occupied Palestine. They ignored the warnings given by Yemen and only have themselves to blame.

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