Remember the car jacking scene in Terminator 3?

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[–] 71 points 1 year ago

The thing that pisses me off most is that cars have these vulnerabilities, and automakers do a shit job of protecting them, but do just a good enough job to keep me, the owner, from playing with them.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Is there an option to physically disable this?

    When i finally get an EV I don't want it to be online in any form, is it even possible to get one like that?

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Install the latest update and hope for the best.

    Or try disabling bluetooth.

    Or try to get a car without autonomous parking.

    Seems like there is no real option though.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I think there's a few options, in order of increasing cost:

    • get a really cheap one from ali express or similar
    • get an older one that uses a defunct connectivity method
    • modify one to remove/replace any telemetry modules
    • build it yourself from scratch using parts from ali express or similar
    • get a shop to build one for you
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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Remove the modem. When I was researching chevy bolts that was the first video I looked up and there was a guy walking through it. It involved opening up the panels and was time consuming but I was willing to do it. Unfortunately, didn't end up getting a chevy bolt.

    Edit: sorry, I didn't read it and it appears to be bluetooth or radio frequency. Removing the modem would not prevent this attack. Probably update the car and hope for the best. Unless you figure out how to remove rf and bluetooth

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Wow, super impressive. Now we need a live video feed from some forward facing camera to give some FPV perspective and a gamepad. And with some more clever hacks, the Leaf could become something like a Mars rover.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    ...a semi-autonomous vehicle surveying a dead landscape?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Sure. It could do your summer vacation including those nasty traffic jams without your participation. Send back a few pictures from important landmarks and monuments, all the while you sit in front of your computer in your air conditioned home like the hacker in the video. Dead landscape might be another option. I'm not sure how the processing power of a Nissan compares to a Mars rover 😅 Maybe it needs to drive very slow to be able to keep up with the incoming sensor data, or due to delay...

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How can an attacker control the steering?

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 1 year ago

    Bluetooth -> infotainment system -> CANBUS -> Lane Assist or adaptive steering

    Die infotainment system should not have this permission, but it does.

    The loophole is the connected smartphone from the driver. An attacker could deauthenticate it and mimic the car app.

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  • These would be better robo taxis

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Somebody did something similar for a Jeep like a decade ago... but somehow people still expect the results to be different now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Never buy a tesla, Elon and any employee can just watch you, hell if they really wanted they could drive you into on coming traffic for the fun of it. Majority of those accidents were not.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    thats a premium feature.

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