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[–] 143 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s dead and they’re replacing it with an AI-first browser. Gross.

If you want the main things Arc gives you (vertical tabs, tab groups), you can get them with Firefox or a Firefox spinoff like Librewolf.

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  • [–] 89 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Zen browser is basically FireFox made to look like Arc

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Zen made sense until Firefox rolled out vertical tabs, but there's little reason to endure all the growing pains and bugs now you can set up basically the exact same thing directly on FF.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why do people want vertical tabs? It feels as if it just takes up more space, and my muscle memory after all these years makes me move to the top. I always go back to horizontal tabs after using vertical tabs for a day.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because web content is increasingly mobile and vertical-oriented. So the horizontal space is usually empty anyway.

    Sometimes new things take time to get used to but if you try it for more than a single day you may find that you like it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Makes sense. The sites I am using most probably have not adopted the new style yet. And like I said, the hardest part is the muscle memory of looking at the top for my tabs and moving my mouse to the top to select a tab.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    because when you have more than 8 tabs open on a horizontal tab row, the tab handles start to become narrower and tab titles become unreadable and almost useless. with vertical tabs tab titles can be as long as you see fit, and the tab title does not take away space from other tab handles so more can fit. essentially its more space efficient I think.

    but I don't use it because my firefox theme breaks down when I set up vertical tabs, and everything will be white, even though I don't even use userchrome customizations

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    tab groups in firefox are surprisingly good! even alongside a tab group management addon. they complement each other, like when you don't want to create a bunch of subgroups for an exclusive view but just collapse them

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    [–] 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No shit it died. They stopped supporting it and on top of it it’s a browser that requires you to be logged into an account to use, which is a turnoff to techie people who are the most likely to adopt nee things early.

    Oh and Microsoft Edge can do most of the things Arc does.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yep. Save reason I won't use Kagi and I don't use AI much. Surveillance capitalism will only ever lead to authoritarianism and dystopia. I don't want anything to do with it.

    You can't trust any company to not sell you out and pick your carcass clean.

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    [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    Never even heard of it until now.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    Zen Browser is open source and in active development!

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    what a fucking joke, the best thing it did was create the zen browser project, and before that Vivaldi existed that took the spot of zen without the hype

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Never heard of that thing, but apparently it was Apple exclusives? Deserved death then.

    I'm hoping ladybug will be operational for mainstream use, before the enshittification of Firefox progresses too far.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It wasn't supposed to stay Apple exclusive. In fact, when I last used Windows there was a beta build out for Arc. However, there were also multiple Firefox styles in the CSS Store that made Firefox into Arc.

    Then Zen Browser came out, and I'm currently watching it get very popular. I don't doubt that Zen Browser is one of the reasons Arc is shutting down. It's nearly an exact copy, but now with more features (and is constantly coming out with even more faster than Arc can think of them).

    I'm excited for Ladybird as well, but I'm not expecting anything crazy when it comes out of alpha and beta. I fully expect to wait a bit, maybe download to contribute some troubleshooting, but it may not be viable as a main use browser for a long time yet.

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    [+] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No Linux build, not git link, why would anyone care?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Because 96% of people aren't using Linux to browse the web.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    The Browser Company, the developer behind the Arc Browser, has announced that Arc is going away

    Where? Where did they do this? Why is there no link? They said several times, very recently, that it was not going away. They were just basically going into maintenance mode.

    please know this: we’re not trying to shut Arc down.

    - 2 weeks ago

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It probably has something to do with being only available on Macs for so long.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    When I eventually managed to test Arc, I felt it was a very overhyped browser. I couldn't see what the fuss was about.

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    It was a fun little experiment to use for about 15 minutes. Won’t miss it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So, no Windows, no Linux, no head?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I really liked the layout of Arc, but ended up going back to Firefox because uBlock still works on it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Most regular people just use what came with their computer, unfortunately.

    So this is a case of a company that made a browser to appeal to techies that didn't see widespread adoption, is pivoting to a new browser that is focused on the central conceit of a product that most techies decry...

    Read the room, Arc. Read the room.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's very sad to hear. I am currently using Arc as my main browser for work (I am a web developer) since its launch on MacOS. Guess I need to switch browsers soon then...

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