The summer is over, schools are back, and the data is in: ChatGPT is mainly a tool for cheating on homework.::ChatGPT traffic dropped when summer began and schools closed. Now students are back, and they're using the AI tool again more.

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 94 points 3 years ago (4 children)

Terrible article, let me save you all the time. Students using ChatGPT = Cheating , there you go, that's the article.

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • load more comments (4 replies)
    [–] 66 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    Homework is a tool for repetition and drudgery. Kids are in school all day. They shouldn’t need homework.

  • source
  • hideshow 13 child comments
  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago

    I hate to say it but there are simply so many subjects to cover in a single day that it's hard to reinforce the lessons learned in class within the given amount of time in a school session. Maybe if schools were structured in a way in which fewer subjects were taught each day would the lessons stick better without the need of homework.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Homework is a way to get parents involved because there is literally no way to teach kids everything they need to learn at school.

    It’s a pitifully failed way to try and get parents involved because in the end the vast majority literally don’t give a shit.

    My sister is a teacher and she’s constantly on about how little time parents put into their kids education. Note that she teaches affluent kids, I’d assume this is ten times worse in homes where both parents work or single parent homes with few resources.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (7 replies)
    [–] 63 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    Clearly an article written to fit a headline rather than the other way around. They talk about use in education settings as a sign that the use cases are limited, despite accounting for only a 12% increase.

    In other news, pencil use is up 100% in the last month, signaling that pencils have limited use cases and are only good for cheating on homework.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Bro the capability of a pencil is a far better medium to expresses concepts. One could argue that a pencils ability to express shades of grey exceeds the capability of the pen. In some ways the pen has an effect of finality.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 60 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    There shouldn't be homework to begin with. Kids go to school FULL TIME, not including commute.

  • source
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I agree with you for most things except math. For math and math based courses you need to practice a ton to get it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Reading and writing are no exception. You also need practice to learn foreign languages. It's not just math

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • [–] 59 points 3 years ago (14 children)

    “You can use AI such as ChatGPT or Copilot on your senior projects, just make sure the code works, you understand it enough to document it, and your sponsor is ok with external code use” - paraphrased from my Software Engineering department head about our senior capstone projects.

    “I have the kids ask ChatGPT for an essay and then have the (8th grade) kids treat it like a rough draft so they have practice editing it” - my English teacher Father

    The best way to handle it is to embrace and use it to augment your skills, much like calculators in math classes.

  • source
  • hideshow 14 child comments
  • [–] 34 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Both of these methods require the student to understand the work. My old man brain insists they should have to code assembly from scratch and walk through snow storms to a library for their essay research, but in reality this is likely how this technology will be used. It's a practical approach. The 8th grade version should probably include fact checking.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I’m thinking of LLMs like calculators when I was in school.

    It’s good to have a fundamental understanding of how it all works, but let the tool be the workhorse and just learn to validate.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Really it needs to start a little younger: in 5th or 6th grade they should be writing short essays in class, by hand, and then move onto outlining for larger essays, and then they can start using AI to do the drafts at home.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (2 replies)
    [–] 30 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The data is in: Business Insider is mainly a tool.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [+] 27 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 19 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    In many countries, schools only care about grades. I was pretty good at getting good grades by understanding what will be tested and minimizing the effort to get there. I would've totally used ChatGPT to do my homework.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 18 points 3 years ago

    Homework shouldn't even exist anymore, it's antiquated and gives kids no work/life balance. (It might actually be a conspiracy to condition them to being worked to death.)

  • source
  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    However, if usage is only recovering because students are back, that may be a bad sign because it suggests there's a limited range of use cases for ChatGPT and other AI-powered chatbots.

    Or maybe kids have always been the early adopters for computer tech?

  • source
  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    At work when I write certain emails or code snippets I'll paste them into ChatGPT and ask it to make the email sound "more professional" or "optimize this code." ChatGPT also talks to me like SHODAN from System Shock 😆

  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • load more comments (3 replies)
    [–] 12 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    And how do your propose to stop it? The cats out of the bag, you need to design better homework.

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    I don't understand why anyone wants to stop it. I'm a teacher and since ChatGPT came out, my job got so much easier. I will say, ahead of my examples, that I proofread everything it creates and make sure all the facts are straight before submitting anything, but it's still a lot quicker.

    I can use it to provide feedback on students work, I use it to write up lesson plans and schemes of work, I use it to draft emails, I use it to give me ideas for activities etc.

    99.9% of the time there are parts I need to edit or delete due to irrelevance but it's done the bulk of the work. This is the same for students work, if they don't proofread it they will most likely hand in incorrect work.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Handwritten assignments are going to make a comeback. It's hard to cheat through an essay you have to write on the spot.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    discussion in here looking like old r/teenagers with predictable takes

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    It's a godsend honestly. I just went back to school at damn near 40 and with a full time job. ChatGPT has made getting through my school work so much easier and faster. I would have never had the patience or time to do college work without it.

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • load more comments (4 replies)
    [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Trends don’t confirm hypotheses like this one. And they don’t appear to have the data for a proper causal analysis. At best, they have an interesting data point.

  • source
  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Only if you don't have the patience to use Chatgpt properly.

  • source
  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago* (10 children)

    So the homework is encouraging kids to explore a real life tool and the teacher can look at the result and corrects any issue with the result thus guiding the students towards a appropriate usage.

    It's a good thing.

  • source
  • hideshow 10 child comments
  • load more comments (8 replies)
    load more comments
    view more: next ›