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[-] [email protected] 115 points 3 weeks ago

Is this not just a bus but worse?

[-] [email protected] 81 points 3 weeks ago

Well you don't have to ride with the poors and you pay direct instead of taxes for maximum inefficiency of money for value.

[-] [email protected] 58 points 3 weeks ago

It's a shared taxi/marshrutka/dollar van/jitney ... Too many names but common across the world especially where the government is incapable of organizing proper public transport.

Just repackaged for techbros.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly this. Interestingly, while in "those" places the government is incapable of organizing public transit, in US, the government chooses not to. It's like learned helplessness at the society level.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Pesero is another.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Busses are going to get privatized....that's this administrations goal, privatize everything.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

I live in the San Diego area, and both our public transit agencies have the bus side privatized. Same shitty service and poor security for years. Meanwhile, the media labels public transit as something for freaks and losers, which provides a great reason not to improve it.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

i'm guessing it would serve routes not already served by busses. in which case it could be useful if you can share them.

it used to annoy me that i couldnt get a bus to the next town over from my hometown when i lived there. i had to get a bus 40 mins in the wrong direction and get a second bus from there into work.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Theoretically they can use the data collected from the app to optimize pickup locations and routes and be flexible as demand changes, since people can be directed to new pickup locations easily. Whether or not that's true and how much it costs will be the deciding factor.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Great, so a more expensive less reliable bus. Perfect

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Is this not just a bus but worse?

Don't forget to tip!

[-] [email protected] 61 points 3 weeks ago

And more expensive too!

Next step: reinvent the train, but call it uber on steel or uber on rails

[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago

You just know it’s going to be individual rail cars so we can have traffic jams on rails!

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

traffic jams on rails

In Germany we achieve that with just normal trains

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

In Australia we do it by closing rail lines that are important, treating the non closed ones like horseshite, and only hiring the dumbest fuckwits possible to drive trains, slam brakes, and send people flying! 🥰🥰🥰

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago

You guys don't get it. It is like public transportation but with the following "features":

  1. No poors.
  2. Owner can exclude anyone they don't like
  3. No job security/unionization for the staff
[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

self-driving with signed waivers of liability in the terms and conditions

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago

Here's one more for "trains is to transportation what crabs are to evolution '

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

And what Excel is to every productivity app, and what email is every messenging service.

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago

No it's privatized, so somebody at the top is getting rich. See that's the important part for these assholes. They just don't want the government spending that money when they could be spending it on more airplanes to drop into the fucking ocean.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Public transit can be privatized and run for profits. Good example is Japan metro and train networks. Bad ones are bus routes in latinamerica.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Germany's partial privatization of public transit, led to major issues like underinvestment, frequent delays, and high costs for passengers, underfunding, and profit-driven management.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

The problem is that if the profitable routes are private, who will run the unprofitable ones? This is effectively siphoning money away from the profitable public transit routes placing more of a burden on transit agencies.

That being said, even if it's 50% cheaper than a normal uber I doubt anyone will use it.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

The trolley system in early 20th century US cities died due to issues related to privatization. It's been done; doesn't work.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well, it's more like the model was unsustainable. The trolley system was originally built by neighborhood builders as a neighborhood amenity to attract buyers. When the neighborhood was all sold up, the builder would hand the system over to the city, who would then fund the maintenance of the system via ? which was fine and dandy for a while because rail infra doesn't need half the maintenance asphalt does, but once you had enough of these lines aging out and piling up maintenance issues all at once and the city having done almost no planning to fund said maintenance, the cities would reliably just say "fuck it, let people drive" rather than try pulling teeth via passing a tax or something. From here in 2025, I'm ready to send a terminator back in time at them over it, but I can see how they arrived there in the context of their time.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalists don't innovate. They gut public services and then claim they invented the idea...

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

if I had a nickle every time a techbro invented a bus or a train, I'd probably be able to afford a fucking bigmac

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And then when people complain because its an inherently worse service, they resort to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and "just start your own company even though you have no capital" type bullshit.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

Adam Something has a done a whole bunch of videos ridiculing tech bro reinventions of bus and train, great stuff.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

It's like carcinisation for public transit.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago

wait wait wait hear me out, what if we had something bigger than a car and it still had a single driver but multiple passengers???

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Like a library but for travelling?

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes, private sector innovation

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Lemme guess, next they'll try connecting multiple carriages to carry more people per vehicle then work with local governments to build dedicated right of way...etc etc...

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

And put some guidelines in the road to assist with self driving. Maybe make them out of metal for improved durability. Then swap out the rubber-wheeled tires for some more efficient and less poluting conical metal wheels since we don't need to worry about them running on asphalt anymore.

Oooh. And as long as we have multiple carriages connected, we can add a walkway between them. Then instead of all of them being for passengers, they can subsidize the cost by having a car dedicated to selling snacks, or other items. You can literally buy your morning coffee from the road!

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Do you want everyone to just sit there, drink their coffee, read daily news or a book and gasp interact with others like some kind of savages? Back in my day we stared at same-looking highways for hours, it builds character.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Revolutionary! Too radical, it will never work!

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

We are 10 years from UberRail

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

WOAH! This is an AMAZING idea! WHY hasn't Anyone THOUGHT of this Before? It's INCREDIBLE!

-People who Vote AGAINST Public Transportation and will COMPLAIN about how Expensive this is!

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Lol, that kind of is a thing already in rural areas of germany. They go by beautiful names like RufBus and AnrufSammelTaxi and are provided by several state owned public transportation companies in low passenger areas/times of day. Usually, it's an additional 2 € per drive on top of the transportation ticket you need to have/buy.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

rural areas

That's the difference though - they're planning for cities (and they're a private company). German cities mostly have decent to very good public transport. I lived in a very rural area (a handful of buses every weekday) for the first 20 years of my life and then moved to the city at least 100 years ago. I'm still in awe of the transport system here (as shitty as it sometimes is).

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

If there is something anyone under 30 should have learned in today's world, is that capitalism will ALWAYS enshittify even the best idea. Always.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Of course they re-invented the bus. It's like carcinisation but the end product is always trains or busses., but if this means less cars on the roads I think I'm for it. As long as cities don't get lazy and use this an excuse to cut their bus programs.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

What’s that other meme? The one about how every few years tech bros reinvent public transportation.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I’m pretty sure it’s public transportation with fewer steps!

Now the public doesn’t have to worry about pesky “democracy” to make decisions about who’s commanding the transportation. The shareholders interests will do that for you!

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Public transportation but expensive.

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