it's a small company and the fw16 is still up to date.

Product iteration is slow and it's very likely that these things coming out now (the 12 in specific) were in the pipeline before the 16 released.

Yeah, I agree, something to do with the 16 should have been given in this release. I disagree wholly with the idea of creating two new skews before making true the implicit promises of the 16 (upgradability, interchangeability, and a 240 watt charger. Though, no charger like that exists for USB-C yet from anyone so that ones a bit more understandable)

The PC I personally assume was them being pressured by investors to do something "AI". That's a real thing that as a web dev I've been seeing like crazy. Investors are pushing absurdly hard for something AI. This, likely, was the quickest to ship product they could hold up to satiate the beast.

Yeah, it is disapointing. Understandable though and I personally didn't expect an upgrade any time soon myself but it's a slap in the face for the 16 buyers and concerning to say the least. If the 16 fails to deliver on a laptop with an upgradable dGPU, it'll be another on a very long list.

Building electronics can be a long process. The FW16 itself experienced many months of delays before it was finally released to preorder. Also, the 13" board that runs the same generation as the FW16 came out before the FW16.

As a FW16 owner, I'd love some news myself, but they did just add two whole new SKUs which is going to take up some component of R&D time. They may be working at a tick/tock cadence for updating small devices then coming back to the large device.

My guess is power. 240w on usb-c is a challenge for overall power budget, and they don’t even sell 240w power supplies yet, only 180w.

Look at the last gen chips for the 13. It's the 7000 series. They usually skip a generation, for whatever reason.

I'm pretty sure they mentioned it in the Q&A they did after the launch event. I didn't remember exactly what they said though.

@Vuraniute the only thing it got recently was those (useless for 99% of users) mechanical buttons that can be made by anyone in any style or something. In that San Francisco stream.

The power is too low for a stationary workstation, the device is too large for a mobile workstation.

My personal gut speculation is they are still exploring possibilities to integrate the Ryzen Max with FW16s without compromising Memory upgradeability. Obviously that was not possible to achieve as easy as they hoped, so the Desktop came first. But I may be totally wrong.

Forget about dGPU! I'm converting the SSD expansion bay to an oculink port.

This is the best way for GPU workloads on the FW16.

You clearly missed the news yesterday lol