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[–] 63 points 1 year ago (6 children)

There are difficult times ahead - but in the end it will make Europe more united and stronger!

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago

    "Stronger" isn't automatically a good thing.

    It's like the old joke; I work out three times a day; get to bed every night at 9 pm; read at least two good books a week; don't eat a lot of candy and treats. I'll be so happy when I get out of prison.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    It will most likely make Europe, along with the US and most of the world, poorer than would otherwise be the case.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Now, now. The rich, especially in the US, will become richer by a lot. And that's all that matters... for them.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Then they’ll send their kids to live and study in Europe like third world oligarchs do with their kids, “I want all the benefits of liberal multiculturalism and rule of law for my offspring but not for my subjects”.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That was the goal.

    In Rubio's confirmation hearing, he literally said that the goal of the administration is to end global Post WWII stability.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What would be the point of ending the stability?

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  • [+] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They were already doing that, only in a slow and stable manner.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Now they're just accelerating their own demise. They will be tortured and killed, and they'll wonder why. It's like Elongated Muskrat is saying that he does not understand what people are mad at him. They have zero self reflections; and they'll deserve what's coming to them.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Replacement with a different stability.

    As the famous quote from Spider-Man goes: "with great power comes great responsibility." Past WW2 the US acted as hegemon. They where the most powerful country and tried to use this responsibility on the global stage - at least to an extent. NATO, free access to US markets for other countries (though that also benefitted the US because it cemented the USD as reserve currency)

    Now the government wants to keep the power but have none of the responsibility. It's similar to their position on free speech.

    To put it an other way: They want to be a bully.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Reported as US News, which not World, but the tariffs have an impact on virtually every country on the planet (Russia excluded), so I'll allow it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    For some reason the dumbass "they want a new world order" people completely don't give a shit when Trump says almost exactly that verbatim and causes exactly that by being his tariff man self.

    Fuck tariff man and everyone that voted for him.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Cost us all? Maybe the business owners and Americans. And probably only American businesses owners. USA isn't the entire world, if you can't export to America you'll export to Canada, France, Kenya, Indonesia, Japan.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    In all fairness, the last 80 years of economic order has been shit for 99% of the population. So I don't get too excited about experts that suggest going back to a less broken system as the answer. We need to rethink our whole economic systems outside of the current ideas.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The world economic system includes many places that aren't the USA and many of them were doing pretty well. That to me would suggest that there's another problem to blame for the crappy situation people are dealing with in the US. I'm all for rethinking a system to help benefit more people but I really don't think that's what's happening here at all.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    What do you understand about the economic system? For example, how the money supply is created, and the ramifications of "interest" and "inflation". What you'll find if you do, is that the system is fundamentally broken if your goal is sustainability on this planet for any serious length of time.

    Most of the current world order couldn't care less, clearly or we'd have done things about climate change that weren't just technical advancements buying us time if making any difference whatsoever.

    Real austerity for the wealthy could pay for solving most of the world's issues, several times over. And we have the resources to do it globally. It shouldn't be a matter of "cost".

    But it'll probably never happen, unfortunately.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    In all fairness, the last 80 years of economic order has been shit for 99% of the population.

    Yes and no. Millions of people were uplifted from poverty because of globalisation. The technology and wealth we enjoy today is because of international trade. But on the one hand, those who lost their jobs from outsourcing were not duly provided with alternatives, and now they are electing demagogues who are promising them easy answers to complicated issues. And on geopolitics, big countries act with impunity, stepping on less powerful countries. This also added for demagogues to use the lack of international order to rally people into nativism.

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