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[–] 83 points 2 years ago (35 children)

I hope more active users move to the fediverse. That way we will have a lot of variety in content and can also potentially prevent communities from becoming echo chambers. I suppose moderation will also have to be taken up a notch for these changes to actually have a positive effect.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    prevent communities from becoming echo chambers

    I suspect this will still become a problem since we can subscribe to whichever communities we like and vice versa.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    It is a feature, not a problem.

    I have, like, this whole rich life offline. My curated list of instances and communities (plus my user block list) is just my entertainment and a small portion of my day.

    You may not believe this but I have numerous thoughts, activities and interactions that never leave a trace online. I have no obligation to drink from the firehose that is being pumped from the septic tank of the human psyche.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Also, more active users means more niche communities. I just realized there’s a Severance community that is medium active. One less thing I need Reddit for.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I hear echo chamber brought up a lot but never really have seen examples of a place that doesn't have an echo chamber.

    I think that's just the natural result of people forming communities as opposed seeking out battle grounds for adversaries.

    Only thing that can be done is offering people the tools to freely form as many communities as they want with the main barrier being who feels compelled to join the new echo chamber community.

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    [–] 68 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Just being here has felt freeing in and of itself. No ads omg. It's beautiful. I like the slower pace here too, it doesn't bother me to see the same post on the main page from a few days ago. I think it's a nice break for my senses actually.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Less bots, more genuine conversations, it’s also not as fast-paced as other social medias.

    It’s great. It feels like a forum from back in late 2000s / early 2010 and I like it

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    [–] 62 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I tried Bluesky for while but honestly I like Mastadon and Lemmy better. I'm also testing LOOPS (tiktok replacement) which is from the same creator as Pixelfed. There's something comforting using decentralized platforms that are safe from Government and Corporate intervention

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    What's your impression of loops so far?
    I've been underwhelmed, but I don't know if that's a platform issue or an adoption issue. Found a couple good accounts to follow, but I really want a block option to keep some accounts out of my "for you"

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Content wise it’s underwhelming but it’s random videos. There’s more variety than Pixelfed which has an even smaller community. Eventually more trends will catch on to Lopps but I hope there’s more original content once it’s out of beta and public

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I remember reading a book that talked about public spaces and how we often think of malls as public spaces, but they have so many restrictions and ulterior motives that it doesn't really hold.

    They're essentially the irl equivalent of centralised social media platforms. I hope once the fediverse really takes off, we can have 'official' platforms/instances that are run by governments that federate only to other 'official' ones. That seems like a better way to reach people, instead of Xitter.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It is incredibly frustrating to see for example Ursula Von der Leyen preaching "EU STRONG" stuff on fucking shitter. Really? This is your way of showing how strong the EU is and we shouldn't or can't rely on USA? By posting your I'm strong message on the precise platform the US chief nazification officer owns? FFS.

    If all EU governments together decide to ditch shitter and move to mastodon instances, media follows. It's a pretty cheap measure to implement, too.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Hard agree! I do think fediverse platforms are perfect for public entities to disseminate information.

    I’m US based so my example is say a county. They already have the IT infrastructure and staff. Make an instance for the county and a community for each department.

    The road department can post road closures and upcoming traffic diversions. The parks department can promote events, etc.

    These type of instances can just disable comments. They are read-only so moderation is not needed.

    It’s trivial from a resource perspective and even easier than updating a website.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    The selfhosting movement sets people free in general.

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I agree with the sentiment of this post. In fact, I was trapped (and extremely discontent) on Facebook for the first half of my digital-life; before finding open-source - and the rest is history.

    I am afraid that we are not doing nearly enough however. This (like most things in this world) is a multilayered issue with no quick-fix, but the core of it is that many (and I mean MANY) of us are tech illiterate. Worse so, even more of us are math illiterate.

    This generally means that most cannot cope with the current world we live in, and are experiencing extreme levels of inertia. I was here at one point, so I know how difficult this transition is.

    An open web existing (on its own) won't do much - its the culture that needs to change. We need to be equipped to think, fight, and adapt - or our spaces won't survive. We are in a constant arms race with bad actors and ALL OF US need to be capable to win this fight. When the bots come to Lemmy (and they will), are most of us prepared to handle filter-lists, run servers, and potentially create a web-of-trust? I doubt this.

    I would really like to see a return to real-life communication for most things (as humans are, from birth, well adapted to this) and the open-web only be used for automation and coordination. I think the most freedom comes from stability and the internet (in general) just does not offer that.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I’m not a fan of mastodon because it really does feel a lot like other social media sites, I don’t really like any form of advertising, whether it’s intentional or unintentional. People post too much bullshit trying to gain followers. I never cared much for twitter/facebook/instagram anyway.

    Lemmy however is a better replacement for Reddit, so far. I remember when Reddit was the replacement and now look at it, a big steaming pile of ads and bots, power tripping admin and moderators, killed 3rd party apps that made the site useable. Hopefully lemmy can remain the same as it is now.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    My fear is that, if lemmy gets too successful, that regarding bots the same fate may occur.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    The major platforms are convenient.

    But the open web offers something better: genuine ownership, community governance, and independence.

    This has a kind of underlying connotation that the open web can't be convenient. This is not true.

    It is true that lots of platforms on the fediverse (Lemmy included) don't have the best user experience and user journey flow. But that's not how it has to be. We don't have to accept that as a given.

    It's the same problem that Linux faces, where UX issues aren't prioritised because the user base is technical enough to deal with the bullshit. We can't let the same thing occur to the fediverse.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    But that's the problem though, devs are notoriously bad at UX, and people good at UX don't seem to care as much about FOSS and the open web. At least that's my experience.

    So we need people to speak out so devs can fix these little paper cuts in UX

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    people good at UX don’t seem to care as much about FOSS and the open web

    I'm not sure this is true - at least I have an alternative explanation.

    People who do the UX design and all that are rarely invited into the process. Open source projects often look for "maintainers" but this almost exclusively means "developers".

    There's documentation and contributing guidelines for developers. Where is the same material for product managers or designers?

    We don't get product managers and designers in FOSS because they've never been invited.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    anyone got tips for finding quality memes on mastodon? i love the philosophy of the service, but i have 0 interest in reading political takes from strangers all day, and right now it feels like all i see on the “trending” page is people complaining about politics. i just want to escape the bad news and laugh a little, not get mad at my phone anytime i open the app

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    I've gone all-in on (properly) federated social media and I've got to say it's been a great experience. After what's happened to Twitter, with Zuck's recently stated plans for Meta, and TikTok's immediate Trump cocksucking, I realized that all privately-owned platforms are as good as compromised, no matter the utility they otherwise provide.

    Instagram was more difficult as it was how I found out about a lot of local events, and was my primary connection to a lot of old friends, but it was worth it. I actually reach out and talk to those friends who I previously just followed. It's restored some actually connection that social media had stripped away, and I find myself avoiding the endless scroll I used to get caught in.

    I'm still working on evacuating YouTube, but using RSS feeds to be more deliberate about whose uploads I'm notified about has helped a ton.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Any great app on Android for mastodon?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I've been using Moshidon. One day I'll find an app as good as Ivory on iOS, but in the meantime Moshidon is fine.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I'll second moshidon. It gets bonus points for letting you see your followed hashtags. Or something like that. There's something with hashtags that you can't do in the web browser that you can do with apps. Moshidon does that thing.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Great read, thank you for sharing.

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    [–] 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    This post is... Well a little lacking in my opinion. I am someone who believes that if we can't tolerate different opinions in different spaces that isn't a good way to engage in good faith anyway. While I like the fediverse. Example: Mastodon and Pixelfed. The platforms themselves isn't always the most user friendly and to me at least is a little lacking. I'm also confused as to why this post flat out doesn't mention bluesky as well but I digress. It's a very new thing to look at what social platform people use as a political statement. Of course we all know MAGA supporters use Truth Social and X (Twitter). At the end of the day when less and less people refuse to come to the table and find common ground the more violent and destructive the world is going to become. Violence only creates more violence. imo.

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