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[–] 126 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The rich love convincing themselves (and the general population) that the working class and therefore society at large depends entirely on them and on their gracious "job creating" generosity to not only survive, but exist.

In reality it is the exact opposite that is true - without the workers to exploit, they are nothing, and if the workers of the world unite, we can get rid of them, and their oppressive systems, for good.

Imagine the shock and awe they would experience when that finally happens.

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    [–] 75 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Good, keep forming unions and keep making them shut down facilities. They're shitty places to work and fund a shitty human being, who funds other shitty human beings.

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago

    Fuck you Amazon. I'm going to inconvenience myself a lot more from now on to stop giving you money.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Maybe having some laws that if a company decides to close a business after unionization then any remaining Canadian company assets are taxed at a rate to pay a reasonable living wage to those displaced. The alternative being complete withdrawal from the country.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Even better, having laws that above a certain size, companies MUST have unions.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    20 or 50 people in my country, depending on sector, apparantly. Just had to look it up.

    Used to know someone who had a chain of stores. He never went over the limit, he simply owned many smaller businesses that worked together under a unified brand name...

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  • [+] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I did not want to mix this with my other comment.

    Globalization is collective bargaining in reverse. As we see here, if you unionize, the company just moves somewhere else. If you passed any of the laws you propose here, the company would simply avoid Canada all together. The outcome of that, zero jobs, is the same as what is happening now. Not an improvement.

    As long as there are “other” workers and jurisdictions lining up to replace us, that “willing” replacement labour is the problem. It will be robots soon.

    By the way, you get “arrested” for breaking the law. The “legal” responsibility of the CEO is to maximum returns for investors. We live in a system where the laws are the exact opposite of what you are proposing.

    I do not see a legal solution that helps. A social movement will not help.

    The only solution is investors.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    The smartest part of this comment is “and their investors”. The CEO makes us mad be he is a distraction. This behaviour is driven by the desire to increase return for investors. The CEO is just one of them. The company has to do what investors want. This is probably what they want.

    We cannot “tank the stock” unless we sell it. So, again, this is an action by investors.

    Unless you just want something to be mad about, stay focussed on the actual problem.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    can you quit earth entirely please

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    The solution would be easy if everyone would do it. Stop buying from Amazon. I'm trying to buy anything I need directly from the provider or at good old fashioned stores.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Amazon has been my last purchasing option for many years now - brick & mortar, CL/FB market used, eBay and then Amazon if all fails and I really need the thing.

    Edit - the added benefit of this approach is that friction introduced in the process allows me a cool down period to evaluate whether something is truly needed. Reducing the friction is precisely part of Amazon’s business strategy, and why they had a patent on 1-click shopping until a few yrs ago.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I look locally for items online first, but where I am at some computer/hardware/tool items are hard to get especially with Canadian Tire turning into a terrible place to buy tools. Amazon is good for folks like my mom that doesn't drive and is not very mobile. Amazon will delivery heavy items to her door so she doesn't have to hobble out to a store

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    It's pretty difficult to find a variety of things without using an evil big store, but nowadays people can use a temporary card service or a paypal service to shop at a variety of smaller specialist online stores with minimal risk of fraud anyways.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago

    Amazon can go fuck itself!

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    This is not new. Walmart has done it as well.

    Canadian government could give a shit.

    https://www.ufcw.ca/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=668&Itemid=6&lang=en

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    The Canadian government is in favor of anti-union behaviour. See the last year of strikes and government intervention.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yup. One of the reasons I don't like Trudeau. (Would take him over PP though)

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  • [+] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    Oh no - what are quebequois (sp?) going to do without an Amazon warehouse in their region?!? How will they survive?!?

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    #ByeByeBezos

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Is unionising not protected in Canada?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yes, but only one of the 7 warehouses was unionized. So they are adamantly stating it had nothing to do with that (yeah, right…)

    I guess mercury was in retrograde?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So, it's criminal to fire an individual after they join a union, but shutting a site is coincidence. Gotcha.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Can we get the Panier Bleue back then?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Is there a way to download wish lists? I want my book list before I delete Amazon.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    I am of the opinion that it will help Québec in the long run and give local companies some breathing room to innovate, test, fail, iterate, refine and discover better way to ship to customers (I pray for something better than Intelcom/Dragonfly 🙏🤣 ).

    Amazon just dropped a huge marketshare of online purchases in Québec (51% of total value in dollars), they almost had the control on how local businesses would have to reach customers online and suck every profit out of each transactions.

    Moreover, Amazon will now have to deal with higher rate of return, damaged and lost packages while on less than stellar delivery (I blame specifically Intelcom).

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