I don't use mint, but the serenity of a reliable platform to work on by far outweighs the boringness of the system.
My computer is a tool, not a hobby (anymore).
I feel the same way on PoPOS. I have compiled my own kernel (it's actually not that difficult honestly) and done all matter of work at work. It's also how I know the system is super stable and I don't have to mess with things for my daily driver stuff.
Mint is my favourite distro. Is everything I want from my computer.
... Except the Nvidia support. I need the actual proprietary driver for cuda and it's not the easiest of rides.
(I switched to Nobara for better support and now the drivers memory leak. I need the courage to distrohop again)
Debian with the mint UI. All of the debian memes, but none of the UI headaches!
There's also LMDE which is mint built on Debian instead of Ubuntu. The Mint guys had the foresight to prepare for a future when they'd get fed up with Ubuntu's nonsense.
Dang it, you gotta come in here and tempt me to distrohop... That's a dang attractive choice.
LMDE is everything you want, I assure you.
For me it's everything but the HDR support.
EndeavourOS on my DD laptop with time shift in case an update wants to be a dick (or I do something stupid).
Proxmox VMs for when I'm feeling saucy.
Ain't no one got time for an unstable work machine.
I run my "work machine" (Windows 11 VM) in Proxmox, cause I aint running windows on bare metal ๐ค Also means it's always available wherever I happen to be, via Apache Guacamole. ๐
I love Mint for this reason.
When my OS works well enough that I don't even have to think about it day to day, it's doing its job.
the thing I think a lot of "linux dorks" (and I use that term lovingly) forget about is that most people want to work on their computer, not work on their computer. The OS, for most people, should be the software equivalent of a motherboard -- an invisible plinth upon which the actual things you care about sit. With a motherboard, that's your GPU, CPU, RAM, etc. and with the OS, that's the applications you run.
there's nothing wrong with making fiddling with your computer a hobby, and I've been known to dabble myself over the years, but for me and most other normal people, that ends up being too much work for too little reward in the end. Mint getting to the point where you can daily drive it and not have to worry about it even if you're a complete brainlet when it comes to Linux is a massive W.
What happens if I also tinker with hardware? Does that mean I am a mother dorker?
Why do you think I shill NixOS here and actually installed Mint on my mom's laptop?
As someone who used Linux Mint for a while and will always keep it in my heart as my stable transition from windows, Pop OS is just about as easy with a much nicer out-of-the-box UI (especially love the native dock). So for anyone like me, try it out.
That's why I love Ubuntu/Mint too.
It's boring stable.
I've been tempted to try out other distros, but honestly, when it works as well as it does for me, it's too hard for me to give it up for something that might not be as stable of an experience.
daily driving arch
why is nothing working I JUST REFUELED MY TANK! HOW COULD THAT POSSIBLY BREAK MY CAR?!
Sounds like a driver issue
RTFCM
Refuel your car next time instead of your tank, sheesh
"Everything's shiny, Cap'n, not to fret!"
"You told me these packages were supported for another 6 weeks!"
"Your last Pacman -Syu was 6 months ago, Cap'n!"
"My OS don't crash. If it crashes, you crashed it!"
Me after a restart following a seemingly harmless package update:
โAh, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!โ
I use Arch BTW.
Today the liquidctl integration of cooler control died, making all my fans go into a safe profile which makes a lot more noise than normal. Imagine having to listen to that for an hour trying to get it working again. I did get it working luckily, somehow the coolercontrol-liqctld python module didn't register properly. Once I got the module registered everything was working, for now....
Not gonna lie, I'm glad I've moved from Arch to Tumbleweed. Media codecs are handled worse somehow, but I haven't had to deal with crap like this ever sinceโฆ
yea this is probably the most annoying issue i've had on Arch. every time there's a new version of Python, you'll need to reinstall some python packages, usually the AUR stuff.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Python#Module_not_found_after_Python_version_update
People who understand Linux Mint and other complex distros at a deep level:
god mode
As a windows user I didn't like Mint
I tried out Kubuntu and it was really nice.
+1 Kubuntu.
KDE Plasma and Debian is where it's at.
Comfortable, familiar OS GUI, working drivers out of the box, and a non crashing kernel with updates once a month.
And also steam works.
Steam and gaming working is a big thing.
Like 96.6% of the operating system.
KDE Plasma and Debian is where itโs at.
Yep, in fact sadly I move away from Ubuntu after years of using because of the slow yet seemingly inexorable trend toward bloatware. Going back to the "basics" with Debian, and keeping KDE, made the transition very easy. As you also highlight, Steam works perfectly. Anyway, time to go back to Elden Ring ;)
KDE more like goodest desktop
Why didn't you like mint? It's set up pretty much like windows.
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I'm not OP, but I also prefer KDE over Cinnamon. The size/spacing of the buttons on the left side of the start menu/application launcher looks weird to me, and while I'm sure there's merits to Cinnamon that was enough to sour my tastes.
I'm so glad I chose right, mint is indeed amazing and easy
Debian stable, I guess, has both people sleeping on cruise control. Fine until it stops being fine, and then a flurry of activity.
Edit: or maybe a train. Boring, except for updates and dist upgrades.
Dist upgrades when you've neglected a server for 3 years is a fun activity. Many versions of the upgrader don't work, need to take a specific upgrade path that lacks documentation. Mainly achieved by trial and error.
Do your upgrades regularly, kids . ๐
At one point I rebuilt a server by fully abandoning the package database and reinstalling everything as overwrites. Converted a slackware install into a Debian install in situ by cannibalizing it from the inside out. Pretty proud of that one, even 20 years later.
edit: oh gods.. more like 24.
Wow, 2000's era was the wild west of Linux. ๐ I remember installing distros from DVDs attached to magazines. ๐คญ
Can you link to the artist?
My shack pc is a tv box with a custom version of armbian, basically it's barely holding itself together, but it still works decently for digital modes, so i'm not complaining; i couldn't imagine the torture that would be daily driving that monstrosity
Get a decent package mangement system on it and LFS is like every other distro with extra steps.
Ugh, interesting yet so obvious! It's been years... well decades since I played with LFS, time to read on https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/9.1-systemd/chapter06/pkgmgt.html
By the wire that powers the PSU, by the CPU on all-high! By the bus and system fans, blessed be... There she lies... The Magnum Opus!
WITNESS ME
Yeah, fuck Windows. I just had a focus stealing pop-up from HP that demanded a reboot.
I had put the pop-up to the side to finish some work before I'd let it reboot. Pressed enter to finish the message I was composing, only for the pop-up to once again steal focus, and given that "restart" was the only button on that pop-up, it immediately restarted the PC.
I do not understand why Windows lets windows steal focus like that. I have to use Windows for work, and I'll be typing in my password or token, and it'll steal the focus WHILE I'M TYPING. It's infuriating behavior and potentially a security issue.
Hint: :q!
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