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[–] 65 points 2 years ago

As much as Toto charges for these, I don't think they should be defeated by toilet paper. Do better.

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  • [–] 60 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Just as soon as people quit pissing on it.

    I supposedly go to work in a building with other adults.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    Men who stand to piss has never had to clean the bathroom. It's standard in Germany to sit when pissing. It's also healthy for men, so if you're standing, especially at home, sit the fuck down!

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  • [+] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)
  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'd recommend that you sit, just because it's healthier for you. But you do you!

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    A source for this claim might help your case.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Shown in this study, men should sit due to the splashback, which will travel throughout the bathroom, and will land on your toothbrush, where bacteria will grow (tip: keep your toothbrush in a cupboard or similar).

    Risk of prostate enlargement (study, which can also lead to UTIs.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    For the 1st one:

    Eleven articles were included. In men with LUTS, a significantly lower PVR (−24.96 ml; 95%CI −48.70 to −1.23) was shown in sitting position compared to standing. In accordance, Qmax was increased (1.23 ml/s; 95%CI −1.02 to 3.48), and TQ was decreased (−0.62 s; 95%CI −1.66 to 0.42) in sitting position, although these differences did not reach statistical significance. In healthy men, Qmax (0.18 ml/s; 95% CI −1.67 to 2.02), TQ (0.49 s; 95%CI −3.30 to 4.27) and PVR (0.43 ml; 95%CI −0.79 to 1,65) were similar in sitting and standing position.

    So that others don't have to go read it to find out, LUTS is Lower Urinary Tract Symptoms. Right off the bat, if you don't have a LUTS, this doesn't appear to apply to you. Further, it even says there was no statistical significance for those with LUTS or healthy men.

    The conclusion:

    For healthy men, no difference is found in any of the urodynamic parameters. In patients with LUTS, the sitting position is linked with an improved urodynamic profile.

    For the 2nd, I didn't get past the title:

    Urine Is Not Sterile: Use of Enhanced Urine Culture Techniques To Detect Resident Bacterial Flora in the Adult Female Bladder

    This seems to be about female bladders. I could be wrong here but I do think we were talking about males standing to pee. The words "sitting", "standing", and "male" make no appearance in the study.

    This is a strange topic to have such a strong opinion about to have no good proof for.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    So standard that they had to have an influence campaign to shame men into "sitz pickling" in homes.

    I'm saying this as a man sitting on a toilet peeing at this very moment, so I'm all in favor. But I think the other commenters should know the history.

    Personally I'm in favor of sitting when plumbing is involved, and standing out in nature.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Fuck am i supposed to wipe them with, a microfiber cloth?

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If I shouldn't wipe the seat with toilet paper because it creates micro-scratches, what the hell does it do to my ass?! I don't want to risk scratches or discolouration either!

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    To be fair, your ass can likely heal micro scratches and your toilet seat probably cannot.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (11 children)

    How on Earth does a toilet seat get scratched from TP?? Are the seats made with super shitty material or is the toilet paper the ass-tearing sandpaper kind?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Even normal tp and tissue fibers are actually surprisingly hard. For example if you wear glasses you should not use tissues to wipe the glasses because it will eventually damage the coating. Something like a cotton T-shirt will be more friendly to your glasses (but it's probably not a good idea to wipe a toilet seat with your t-shirt)

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Then why do we use them on our assholes? Are we stupid? (don't answer that)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Then why do we use them on our assholes?

    The epithelial cells keep reproducing, so any cells your tear off while wiping gets replaced.

    But I still concur: it's 2025, we sent people to the moon almost 60 years ago, we built a world wide computer network, and I can watch porn on a little plastic rectangle, using wireless headphones, so nobody notices that I'm jerking off on the bus (ok, that last part isn't true, they definitely did notice, and I'm not allowed to drive the school bus anymore /s) ... still though, we've come so far, and we're still wiping our asses with dried tree mush? Wtf? At least we're not using the toilet brush like the Romans, but how about we tried something other than scraping feces from our skin? Maybe a build in bidet? I have never found them in the wild, but when I do, I can guarantee that I'm trying out the warm water and blow dryer options... Maybe while using my wireless headphones and plastic rectangle ;-)

    Are we stupid? (don't answer that)

    Yes (sorry, too stupid to understand rhetorical questions)

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    “You’re doo-doo-ing wrong.”

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Am I to high or this toilet looks like head with open mouth ? edit: The thumbnail has somehow flipped shadow.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    In stead, bless the rains down in Africa. 60% of the time, it works every time.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago*

    If it cannot withstand paper, it cannot withstand underwear. This doesn't inspire me with security and reads more like the company trying to push away responsibility for cheap products and/or bad design. Toilets are nothing new, every country has at least a few.

    * Pulls off mask, revealing "includes features like ... an air dryer".

    Funny thing about air dryers and using them near plastics... Yeah, guys, to the people trying to argue that toiler paper is now sandpaper, one, I'm going to venture a guess that an air dryer does more damage, and two, I'm going to trigger you by telling you how I've been using toilet paper to clean my glasses and no problem, they even still have that blue surface level "anti-reflection" protection.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    why are people wiping toilet seats with toilet paper?

    especially washlets where you're definitely sitting down to enjoy the seat heating??

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Too impatient to wait for the Japanese toilet to blow my freshly-bideted asshole dry, but polite enough to wipe up the questionably poopy water that drips from it when I stand up too soon.

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    [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Duh. Everybody knows you should use your tongue.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    For those who are surprised at the hardness of toilet paper and or paper towels, find a bare aluminum object and rub toilet paper or paper towels on its surface. Really hard with a lot of pressure. It won't take much for black swarf to become visible on the paper as a fine black powder of aluminum is ground off.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I got a woodstove recently and got the same warning about the glass door on the front. Don't clean it with paper towels or it will scratch up the glass. They recommend using newspaper instead.

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