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Wow, things have changed since I last posted in /c/fediverse. Here are the top five most active instances based on monthly active users:

  • lemmy.world: 19516
  • lemm.ee: 3779
  • lemmy.ml: 2970
  • sh.itjust.works: 2355
  • feddit.de: 2293

Source: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

goddammit

i joined dxcomplex because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn't fold (and i liked the name);
then it folded so i joined .world because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn't fold (and i liked the name);
then it got massive so i joined lemm.ee because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn't fold (and i liked the name)

i'm starting to wonder if i'm cursed

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

but what if going away makes it worse? .world's downtime has only increased since i made my l.ee acct

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well then, please post where you're gonna go next so we can avoid your trail.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well actually, i did recently make a backup acct. on lemmy.dbzer0.com...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Well that's not great for me then

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol same, I joined FMHY first because I wanted in on a smaller instance. I now self host. Fool me once.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering how many startrek memes I see on lemmy, I'm surprised this was the original meme.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We did it!

Wait that wasn't the point.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (15 children)

People seem to only want their accounts on "general use" instances that are already pretty popular.

Which is... bizarre. There is no downside to having your account on a more niche instance (as long as it isn't so niche that it gets turned off), and there are arguably disadvantages to having your account on a more popular instance.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People want to be where people are. My guess is we’ll end up with a bunch of super instances eventually.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People want to be where people are.

This logic only applies in centralized platforms. In the case of the Fediverse, people are everywhere and anywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One big thing that hasn't changed from reddit is that lemmy instances are still based on an autocratic power structure. Whether or not your content gets seen or you get to see other content depends on the relationships between those leaders. That means choosing your leadership is of utmost importance, and I eventually settled on lemm.ee because it was the first instance I came across that both a) seemed like it had actual adults running the show, and b) was large enough for that leadership have already faced some challenges and have an established track record.

That's the downside to a niche instance.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A slight advantage to big servers is the increase in anonymity on the backend. Given the server admins can do what ever that want. An admin on small server would no doubt be looking into who and where their individual users are. Big severs are more likely to become more population based. Doesn't really matter though I suppose.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

This graph is actually wrong, lemmy.ml doesn't have open sign ups, it just appears to because the Lemmy software doesn't accurately distinguish between open and closed registrations, it only distinguishes between open registrations and application-based registrations. If registrations are closed it'll look just like they are open, but we'll just give an error message when you try to sign up which is incredibly deceiving.

I filed an issue to fix this discrepancy on their GitHub.

Another issue with this graph is that it shows lemmy.world as American but it's actually hosted in Finland.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

Getting closer to being ddos'd every six seconds.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Woah, we grew fast!

lemm.ee has been consistently great for me, wonderful admin too.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I chose ee over ml after what Mali started doing and that site could drop offline at any time.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The other .ml instances had a .ml free domain. Lemmy.ml paid for the domain so it's in no danger of losing it.

Edit: further proof that it is a paid domain:

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Who owns lemm.ee and why do people choose it over other instances?

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago

Can't speak for others, but my decision to stick with lemm.ee stemmed from seeing how active the owner is, the minimal defederation and the bot & moderation policies meaning there are minimal bots, and I've yet to currently see much spam issues, which is nice.

Also helps that the owner Sunaurus is an active contributor to the Lemmy project as a whole, so we get patches and fixes relatively quickly.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (14 children)

why do people choose it over other instances?

Non-techy people want a big instance, but .world goes offline too often and .ml doesn't allow new sign ups.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I tested different instances lemm.ee was quite small compared to the big ones. The main pros are technically fast and stable. It also federates comprehensively.

Edit: also remembered that it hasn't had any insane admin/rule situations that I've noticed

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

.ml doesn’t allow new sign ups.

It does, however one must know what is six minus two to get the approval.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's new, they were closed for a while

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Because it is more open and lenient in not defedereting and as a user i can choose which subs and instances to block.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Thanks. Looking at the admin's profile, he seems to be very reasonable. I especially like this comment he made:

"Not sure if I actually have to justify removing soviet and/or nazi symbolism, but I have lived my whole life in a country on the border of Russia. My country been ravaged by both Nazis and Soviets in very recent history. I want to be clear that while I think criticising capitalism is totally normal and necessary, I am also extremely aware of constant Kremlin propaganda. Propaganda which is spread both in their media, but also crucially in online channels. Propaganda which includes things like downplaying horrifying actions of the soviet union, portraying their “enemies” (the west) in the worst possible light, and mixing in soviet symbolism wherever possible. I have no intention of allowing anything which resembles this propaganda to be spread through lemm.ee. If banning offending users does not work, then further steps will definitely be taken."

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Noooooooooooo. Don't get too big or that'll just paint a target on our server for the DDOS attacks!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

They should probably add a % measure to that to show active users as a % of total users to give a more balanced look at active instances

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Oh goody. There's a [email protected] and it's not me. And it's using one of my older profile pictures.

EDIT: 2023/8/29 update -- I posted to the lemm.ee support community and the admins decided to disable the account. Well done!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

lemm.ee best instance 100%

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Che, that means drama incoming.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I contributed! After lemmy world banning the piracy community

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where's lemm.ee located physically?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

This was asked in the lemm.ee discord and the answer given is below.

Ping times are low everywhere because the files we serve are hosted on globally distributed servers. So if you're in North America, you will download the frontend code (and images etc) from a North American server. But the backend is actually hosted in Germany

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

"were using a rock bottom VPS out of germany with cloudlfare"

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