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[+] 236 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (18 children)
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    [–] 124 points 2 years ago (140 children)

    Isn't he the same person who calls adblocking piracy?

    I mean I get that Youtubers have no morals and it's all about money but that seems excessively hypocritical, even for a Youtube "personality".

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  • [–] 287 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    Isn't he the same person who calls adblocking piracy?

    He's also got a generally nuanced opinion of piracy, in that it's justifiable in some situations. If you call it piracy and you're okay with piracy then it's not really a contradiction.

    Being willing to talk about it despite working against your interests isn't always bad depending on context.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I had the vague recollection of him having a small-business-owner-brain moment and going on about how it's theft, and it's taking money out of his pockets, or something along those lines.

    Looks like I may have been either thinking of someone else, or misinterpreted a snippet of video of him ranting about something.

    I will admit to not watching his stuff for a good number of years now, and could be totally conflating things.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    That was probably his stance when YouTube ad revenue was his stream of income.

    In 2024 they pay pennies, and his real income is from sponsorships like those d-brand skins and manscaping utilities. And their own merch, of course.

    They've been pushing their own media platform (floatplane), so I'm willing to bet this was a bit of a game of chicken with YouTube. YouTube wouldn't ban one of their biggest channels, and even if they did it'd turn into great publicity for floatplane.

    While I don't think they'd be able to get a lot of their subscribers over to floatplane completely, I do think they'd be able to pull over lots of random views by having their shorts on Facebook, Instagram and whoever else is trying to mimic tiktok these days.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    LTT always seemed "slimy" to me, especially after the whole mistreatment allegations ordeal

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    Yeah, ever since all that stuff came out just before the new CEO took over, including the video/audio of the sexual harassment meeting which was treated as a total joke, I unsubscribed and stopped viewing their content. I couldn't reconcile their fun and approachable/friendly image with how they're treating staff. Moved on to watching more from other creators like Jayztwocents. Unfortunate that people keep turning out to be shitty left and right.

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    [–] 120 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    I don't care for Linus these days but respect for that.

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  • [–] 58 points 2 years ago (22 children)

    Yeah, I got tired of his videos half-assing the work and the failed reviews hurting small manufacturers while Linus doubled down after GN documented their failures.

    But this I can get behind.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    Doubled down? After being called out they slowed the upload cadence, are taking more time to make sure mistakes don't get through, and changed their production process. They also formed a volunteer team of "beta tester" viewers who see each video pre-release to catch any mistakes they didn't internally. I think they handled it well. Of course it would be better if they didn't have a problem in the first place, but I'd never call it "doubling down".

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    There was an initial reaction from Linus on his forums where he massively doubled down on his stance that he had not done anything wrong with the review model LTT had auctioned off without permission (I can't remember the name of the company). He had even accused GN of not following "journalistic standards" by not giving LTT a chance to put their side forward.

    This was met with another video from GN, and overall criticism over the dismissive attitude Linus was displaying. That's when they came out with a YT video, admitting their numerous faults, and Linus himself admitted that the way he responded on the forum was not acceptable.

    Pretty much doubled down initially, till they realised that they're in actual deep waters.

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  • [–] 106 points 2 years ago (37 children)

    I have no longer watched their content since the scandal.

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    [–] 105 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    Friendly reminder that pirates didn't usually stole gold. Piracy was stealing shipping goods, then selling them for profit at some port. Digital piracy is thus defined as acquiring, and then distributing for profit, media that you don't own the copyrights of. Ad blocking is categorically not piracy.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Also, "piracy" or "copyright infringement" isn't theft in any sense.

    A key element of theft is that you deprive the rightful owner of something. You now have it and they no longer do. What makes it wrong is that the person who should have it no longer does. It's not that you have it. That's why the punishment for "mischief" where someone completely destroys something belonging to someone else is similar to the punishment for the theft of that same object.

    Copyright infringement is breaking the rule that the state imposed giving someone the exclusive right to control the copying of something. You're not depriving anyone of anything tangible when you infringe a copyright. They still have the original, they still have any copies they made, any copies they gave out or sold are still where they were. The only thing you're doing is violating the rule that gave them exclusive control. If you're depriving someone of anything, it's depriving them of the opportunity they might have had to make money from selling a copy.

    If anything, copyright infringement is more similar to trespassing than to theft. Just like copyright infringement, trespassing involves not allowing someone to control who accesses their property. If you sneak onto someone's campground property and have a bonfire party, the person loses the opportunity to rent out the campground for the bonfire, and any money they might have received for doing that. But, if you sneak in and sneak out and leave no trace, you could argue that nobody is harmed.

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    [–] 89 points 2 years ago (43 children)

    Well that's a thumbnail I'd never click on

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    [–] 89 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I bet they removed it faster than a porn video on YouTube Kids! 😲

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    [–] 72 points 2 years ago

    don't you know, it's hate speech against corporate profits

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  • [–] 66 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (83 children)

    Funny, considering in the past he's gone on big rants about how adblocking is no different from piracy, and is theft.

    But then again, its Linus we're talking about, its not like he has a particularly big issue with theft anymore.

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    [–] 65 points 2 years ago

    Of course de-googling your life is a violation of the terms is service...

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ah so its war you want, YouTube.

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    [–] 55 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    What happened to his hair?

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago

    Obligatory Louis Rossmann commentary on the matter. https://youtu.be/qHwP6S_jf7g?feature=shared

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It has been reuploaded already with a nice "re-upload" added in the thumbnail.

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Didn't he say that using adblockers in YouTube was basically piracy?

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    …to the surprise of absolutely no one who's been paying attention. They got rid of the coalmine canary clause like a fucking decade ago.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    There would be less talking over each other due to word definitions if the music industry had not convicted people that murder and stealing on boats was good way to describe unauthorized copying.

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago

    Fucking hilarious.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    How to "block" ads: Refresh the video multiple times. They will show a few different ads and then give up. It even works on console YT apps which have more ads.

    I guess it affects impressions? I figured they would have fixed that, but this still works so whatever.

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