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[–] 93 points 2 years ago (43 children)

"I must preserve my echo chamber!"

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  • [–] 86 points 2 years ago* (30 children)

    I find most people who complain about echo chambers are just mad that they aren’t allowed to barge in everyone’s door and start shouting their bigoted opinions like it’s some moral imperative we all give equal time to all opinions/ideologies.

    Are positive, liberal LGBT communities echo chambers? Are they not allowed a collective space to hang out without having to explain themselves all the time?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    It depends. Defederation for good reasons is good, defederation for bad or false reasons is generally bad.

    As an example, having a strict and democratic defederation/federation policy has contributed to Hexbear having the most active trans community on Lemmy, and it's a good thing that there's an actively protected trans space free from bigotry.

    At the same time, defederating from instances for political reasons under the guise of other reasons is generally a bad thing.

    It's largely context dependent.

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    [–] 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Why would someone who doesn't like blocking and de-federation like "federated platforms"?

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    Of course this is an ML post

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    Lemmy.ml is federated with the vast majority of major instances, moreso than others like Lemmy.world. What are you trying to say?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It’s like yall forgot the entire post/punchline lmao guess folks really do require /s

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Still doesn't make sense, Lemmy.ml doesn't constantly threaten to defederate from other instances over political reasons

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    free speech also applies to lemmy servers. If the server doesn't agree with most of what's on your server, they can and should have the option to not associate with your server at all. This honestly sounds like a shit take elon would have made.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I defederated lemmy.world because I don't feel like hosting and re transmitting US propaganda.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It is kinda surprising how much obvious propaganda makes it onto Lemmy, for example those memes that aren't really memes as much as "haha this opinion wrong"

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Lemmy itself is largely made up of Communists, Anarchists, and liberals fleeing Reddit.

    As a consequence, there's a lot of Communist agit-prop, and a lot of reflective panic on the hands of liberals.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think there's benefit to blocking the particularly Nazi/pedo instances, but otherwise do wish we'd just all be able to federate together and share content for the most part.

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    lemmy world admins cracking down on posts they don't like with no accountability and arbitrarily changing their ToS after the fact to cover for it, but somehow the entirety of the factionalist weirdos who cling to the idea of a corpo-friendly Reddit clone are laying the blame on... other instances?

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago

    I think it depends on what you disagree with. If one is promoting going after our neighbors, hunting them down and killing them? Yeah, defederate. If another is Meta trying to take over the federation. Yeah, I vote defederate. If one thinks Hawaiian pizza is a travesty and the other doesn't, hold your horses.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (27 children)

    I tried like 4 different lemmy instances before settling on lemm.ee because it hasn't defederated from the socialists or "tankies". So I can participate.

    This defederation fracturing lemmy really speaks to both self-censorship of allowable ideologies and also bad quality of admins and mods several servers.

    If lemmy can't somehow federate communities separately from instances I don't see lemmy thriving.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    let people defederate idgaf

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Some places suck.

    Some places suck, by design.

    Reducing criticism of systemic problems to "just because you disagree" is dishonest... and indicative.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (61 children)

    When Musk took over Twitter he allowed violent and extremist views to flood it without moderation.

    That's the sort of community Lemmy would be if we didn't have the tools needed to keep it clean of harmful ideologies.

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    In aggregate; 5 instances, less than 5 communities, and more than 69, nice, blocked users.

    I don't mess around. I don't hesitate to block people who argue needlessly, make my experience less informational or less entertaining, troll, or disregard arguments made in foundational logic to push a point of view or 'win the argument'. Similarly my instance ignores downvotes and does not display them; as with most platforms which behave similarly to reddit; they simply do not work outside of your personal, local account, local instance, user-sorting context.

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  • this is so true lmao.

    mm yes federated media platform, surely i won't run into shitty people now

    runs into shitty people:

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