“One thing we have really found is a place to feel comfortable being ourselves,” Dean said. Americans are segregating by their politics at a rapid clip, helping fuel the greatest divide between the states in modern history.

One party controls the entire legislature in all but two states. In 28 states, the party in control has a supermajority in at least one legislative chamber — which means the majority party has so many lawmakers that they can override a governor’s veto. Not that that would be necessary in most cases, as only 10 states have governors of different parties than the one that controls the legislature

This can only end badly as conservatives seem to have no problem ruling over land in empty states.

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[–] 10 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I agree it's not great, but red states are actively persecuting minorities. Why would a minority willingly stay in a red state at this point? And if you're an ally or liberal or whatever and see what's happening clearly, why would you stay and be a part of it?

Polarization is the logical outcome of Republican policies.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It’s an interesting dilemma. As one example, I feel a tinge of regret that two blue votes are leaving Texas when my partner and I leave. On the other, which of us are obligated to stay and sacrifice personal security or comfort for an uncertain political “battle”?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    If there was a way to coordinate support for blue voters in red states, it would certainly help out. Don't know what that would look like exactly. But a big part of the problem is isolation. So a support network it's necessary.

    Still wouldn't be an ideal situation. But decent formal support might attract more volunteers.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Honestly? We should cut them off.

    All these red states rely on blue states for their money. They literally couldn't afford to have roads and schools if it wasn't for federal funding paid for by states with healthier economies and more liberal policies (no coincidence).

    So let's take their fucking money. They want to drive the country into the dirt? Let them pay their own way and we'll sit in our relatively progressive bubbles until they realize they do, in fact, need us.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    100% agreed, not sure why we're subsidizing an entire third world country stapled to America that wants to drag us back to the dark ages and use our own money to do so.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Seeing the real harm caused by recent legislation in states like Florida, I'm not convinced this effect isn't mostly women and POC actively fleeing red states.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I'm fleeing Florida with my partner because we're not safe here anymore. I'm riding out the lease here while she finds a place out of state where she can get her hormones and we won't get hate crimed. ffs, I'd been to Pulse the week before the shooting and the sociopolitical climate has only gotten worse with the current legislation.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    We're trying to get my s/o and her kid out of Florida but her ex husband is kind of a shitbag and purposefully avoiding family court to keep her locked there. It's straight up awful. We're already on a like 10 month wait for this process.

    There's also a really good chance she gets locked there for custody for the next decade. Which sucks because she absolutely needs medical care for her bits and bobs and Florida is actively fighting her on it because they're close to abortions in their nature. Several doctors giving her the run around for endo treatment and such.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    All the best to both of you, it's a shit situation all around. I was incredibly fortunate to be able to find a doctor willing to give me a hysterectomy; she says the number of those surgeries have skyrocketed (bisalps/tubals too) because none of us are sure just how much worse this is going to get.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Had to escape Florida for the safety of my partner and myself. She couldn't even get her hormones anymore.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'm planning on moving my family out of Texas. It's not safe to be a woman here and I can't put my kids through public education that is being systematically dismantled by underfunding, book bans, and restrictive curriculum.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    And red states are also the ones suppressing blue votes as well. That's the only reason GOP win any presidential elections, or probably federal elections in general.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Conservatives want to eradicate anyone that isn't Straight, White, and Christian, so why would I ever move to a red state if I'm not in that group?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    This offhand comment that was quoted in the article is really unsettling:

    “Here, the tax dollars naturally goes to the citizens, not the immigrants,”

    This isn't a conservative vs liberal policy thing, this is more insidious. This person's worldview subconsciously classes "citizens" and "immigrants" as mutually exclusive groups. There's "us, who were here before and belong here", and "them, who came here from somewhere else and shouldn't receive the benefits of our government". It seems like it wasn't long ago that the dominant left-vs-right conversations I observed were mostly discussions about economic and foreign policy where both sides had reasonable points and compromise was possible, but this isn't that. This ideological divide built on religion, xenophobia, nationalism, etc. can't end well.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    It won't. Sometimes it feels like some people have been reading certain dystopian science fiction and alternate history novels and stories as if they were a blueprint instead of a warning.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, the US will break up like the USSR in my lifetime.

    It's going to be messy, and there's going to be some serious consequences for certain states that wanted to control their own laws based on Church/Hate despite being completely unable to go it alone economically.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It’s gonna be that or fascism for everyone, so I’ll take the messy breakup.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (6 children)

    Considering how things are going here in Urop, unfortunately I think fascism for everyone is what's going to happen in the coming decades. Ask yourself how easy it will be to get rid of fascist dictatorships that have panopticon-level surveillance capabilities and far reaching control of the media landscape including traditional media and the Internet

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    The problem is that the real divide still is urban vs rural, not state v state. I always lived in red states and am very leftist. There's always strong leftist communities in every red state, even in small cities. Every state is less than 10% off from true purple last I checked.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    People know that. But power isn’t divided that way. So when people look to alternatives to federal power, they usually look to the existing political infrastructure of states, not, for instance, less-organized/-powerful counties.

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    [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    It is a real shitty time to be a gun loving transgender anarchist...feels like there is nowhere for me to go.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I'm in MTG's district, the thought has definitely crossed my mind to leave. But this is my home, and it's going to have to take something truly horrific for me to leave. Honestly, I feel that a situation like that is inevitable at this point, but I'm staying put until I can't.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I feel like I will be forced to move out of my state if they manage to pass the proposed anti-transgender laws. 😔

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Move if you must to protect your safety and life. You are a precious valued member of society, and don’t let anyone tell you different.

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