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A community for everything related to Palestine and the occupation currently underway by the occupying force known as Israel.

Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.

Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.

We always take the sides of Palestine and Palestinians and are unapologetic about it. Israel is an occupying power whose "defence force"'s (note the contradiction) sole purpose for existing is to push Palestinians out so they can resettle their rightful land. If you have anything positive to say about Israel we do not care.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're less fucked with dems they say as the entire area between Libya and Afghanistan has been bombed to shreds by dems

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

With democrats its an inclusive army bombing you tho!

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're trying desperately to make us believe that Trump would be worse on Palestine. Which is insane when you consider that Palestine's cities are all rubble, people are being shot at for trying to fish, and the IDF is constantly kidnapping and torturing noncombatants.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

All it would take is for Bibi to say one negative thing about Trump, or for Trump to say one negative thing about Bibi or the Palistiian genocide, and they'll get in a pissing match with each other.

Biden has become a true cuck to Isreal, while Trump still has the chance to be a wildcard

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

And if Trump does go full cuck and lets Bibi walk all over him, MAGA support would collapse within the day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Trump will be far more of a cuck for imperialism in round two I think. Expect fewer deviations from the neoliberal party line.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don’t understand this mentality. Because liberals will say that Trump will be some all powerful dictator, but at the same time when Biden is in office his hands are tied because the president isn’t actually all powerful. So which is it? Can the president do whatever they want or are they kept on a tight leash?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get where you are coming from but in this particular case the implications are far worse. This Sabrina person does not even try to convey that the Democrat's hands would be tied.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Hell, she doesn't even appear sorry for it. She basically laughs off the actual genocide (while realizing the Palestinians are fucked regardless) and swears at him, and basically just claims that the other guy (Trump) will fuck them over harder. Typical abuser behavior, and typical lib behavior (of choosing fascism over human decency- this is what her post is).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It's not about what power the president has. The president exists for manufactured consent. If Biden gets in and commits genocide and fails to do anything progressive, it's proof "socialism" can't work, that we consented to genocide, and that democracy works because he didn't overstep his authority. But if Trump gets in and ignores his opponents, does whatever he wants, etc., then we consented to that and are fine with the erosion of democracy if it means more fascism.

It's a farce, and personally I think we're being guided towards a fully fascist transition in the figure of Trump. Not because he, as a person, is anything. He's a moron. But because he's the kind of bigot chud that half the country idolizes, and through them the illusion of democracy can be shed and capitalists can take full power. After all, if more than half the voters support a fascist takeover, then isn't that more or less how our failed model of democracy works?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Gotta love how they can't even offer anything of substance in that cover, just vague allusions to "strength," "wisdom," and Klanmala running her mouth.

What "words of strength and wisdom" does Harris have to offer, exactly? (I severely doubt anyone has ever gained such inspiration from her for that matter, and if so, certainly never for anything good) "We can't release these prisoners despite federal rulings, we need the ~~slave~~ prison labor?" "Let's jail truant kids' parents and for petty substance charges?" "People protesting war criminal and genocidaire Netanyahu are 'Iran's useful idiots?'"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I vomited a little...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I really can't wait for Trump. Sounds bad? Yeah, sure. But these libs deserve so much more than what he will have to offer (most of which is lib fearmongering). At this point the only path to progress in the imperial cores- and in the global system- is for these libs and the whole system they back to burn to the ground, completely.

I hope this "Sabrina Anirbas" gets exactly what is coming to her. Unlike Dr. Refaat, she will deserve it, this will be what she and all her ilk will have brought on their heads. And if the west is truly so irredeemable that it comes down to WW3 and full nuclear exchanges (as there's a very good chance it will), all those they can bring down with them (hopefully as few as possible) will die as martyrs, but for these libs, if there is a hell (sadly doubt), eternal torment is but a inkling of what they deserve.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Correct, libs, especially self proclaimed proud ones, deserve Trump. But let's be real, trump winning doesn't do anything to them. They get to cosplay tinker tailor soldier spy about Russia for the next 4 years if trump wins. The global south always bears the consequences.

All the MSNBC hosts are gonna make bank if that happens.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's Trump going to do to the global south, that Biden isn't already (or that he hasn't already done before- and Obama before him, etc)?

Engage in industrial genocide, and send troops in there (so far at least for that ""rescue mission"" where trigger-happy Yanks killed hundreds)? Push for WW3 and strike, or allow Isntreal to strike targets like peace negotiators, embassies, and hospitals without condemnation or consequences? Try to coup several Latin American and other global south countries? Try to create more "Ukraines" in countries like Georgia, the Philippines, or Myanmar? Overthrow governments in the global south, like say- Pakistan and Bangladesh? Try to expand NATO to Africa and Asia, and to further increase sanctions on the rest of the world? Place migrants in cages and concentration camps at the border?

Seriously though, Genocide Joe's administration is probably the most warmongering, deranged, and tyrannical US regime yet (and the next admin, Klanmala or Genocide Trump will almost certainly be worse). But what exactly are the "consequences" between Trump and exactly, for the global south? Well, I suppose he'll try to lay off on Russia (if he will even be able to do that) so as to pivot to Iran and China- but even then what difference exactly will he make from what Biden (or rather, Biden's babysitters) have already done?

The only meaningful distinction between the Trumpsters and the rest of the US political establishment as I see it, in regards to foreign policy, is their priorities listing- and that Biden/the political establishment, has better optics around the west (better imperialist unity) and the blob united behind them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Correct on everything. It's almost as if a nation founded by slaveowners and ethnic cleansers was doomed to do this for its entire existence. I don't believe in predestination, especially for a nation, but I don't see any evidence to counter it.

McDonald's can get a new manager, but the menu doesn't become healthy all of a sudden.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

McDonald’s can get a new manager, but the menu doesn’t become healthy all of a sudden.

This is so good

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Couldn't have described it better myself on both counts, tbh.

And while I also don't believe in predestination, it certainly fits perfectly. 500 years of evil is coming home to roost, and a self-inflicted punishment biblical in proportions is almost certainly on its way if the first genocide-reich, the rotten core of imperialism itself cannot- for once in its sordid history- choose human decency and reject colonial barbarism.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

wojak-nooo Biden's committing genocide

yes-chad it would be worse under Trump tho

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

America's weird for never voting 3rd parties, i personally don't care to vote for someone who'll only get 1% in the end, and certainly wouldn't vote for the "lesser evil" as long as i have a choice.
Well, that's an american thing i never understood, i hope that France won't end up as much of a two-party system as the u.s., 🤷

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We also get fucked by the Electoral College, so you can win the popular vote and still lose. It's basically legalized gerrymandering to make rural votes count more.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it actually really confuses me that people say that your vote matters in the USA. Even if you're fully bought into the system, D's or R's, you can't fucking deny that the Electoral College is gonna do whatever it fucking wants. The electoral college mostly ignores what its people say ( Obviously, they mostly align, but some counties that flipped last election, they decided to ignore that, and some counties didn't flip, and they decided to ignore that too). There were electoral college members that voted third party in Trump vs Clinton. Like what? Talk about a protest vote haha.

Hell, if American Communists could get their act together and just get as many people secretly into the Electoral College as possible, we could totally fucking run a coup in this place ( Okay, okay. Once you become a part of the system, you tend to have a hard time fighting it. So, honestly, that probably wouldn't work).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Faithless electors are weird, because SCOTUS allows states to enforce laws that replace faithless electors, but some states choose to count the vote anyways. It's a whole mess and has its own NATOpedia article.

So, you'd have to get 270 faithless electors consisting only of states that do not void the votes... all for the FBI to assassinate the candidate who meets the constitutional requirements to be president that you've managed to get them all to agree to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

allows states to enforce laws that replace faithless electors

Ah, yeah that's a whole 'nuther problem. Comes after the initial problem of actually getting those 270 in their seats and to vote in unison.

all for the FBI to assassinate the candidate

Damn, that's true. so many problems with that idea haha!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The funny part is that in France the capitalist bourgeoise also control the government and just use different mechanisms of power to do so. France, like the rest of Europe, grovels at the will of the American Empire and does exactly what it demands of it.