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[–] 280 points 3 years ago (37 children)

Well now I'm definitely not buying it.

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  • [–] 100 points 3 years ago (33 children)

    I never understood the appeal of paid programs. 7-Zip works equally well and is free and open source software. It integrates much nicer into File Explorer as well.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago* (16 children)

    I agree that 7zip is great (albeit based in Russia, so not something I'm sure I want to support at the moment), but consider for a moment that winrar licencing is primarily aimed at businesses (which is why they don't bother locking personal users out after the trial ends), and for that money you get a certain guarantee of functionality and stability over a long period of time.

    There's absolutely no guarantees that 7zip will continue to be developed, or that it will retain it's current features and functionality - the developer can turn it into a Minesweeper clone if they feel like it, and there's nothing a business can do but keep using an outdated and thus potentially dangerous version that will eventually become unusable.

    You also get a certain level of customer service and corporate communication between the purchasing company and the production company to help resolve issues, which may not exist at all with the alternative.

    It's also not always wise to have your business rely heavily on a tool that only sees development through volunteer work by a limited number of disparate people that may come and go, and while I don't know how large the volunteer base is that works on 7zip (it could be just the one guy, it could be a hundred people), to a company it'll never feel as reliable an option as relying on a tool that sees development and maintenance through a paid, full time staff at an established legal entity company with an established reputation.

    And speaking for a moment to that established company bit, consider that winrar's company is based in Berlin, within the European Union and under it's rules and laws, which is a far better proposition from a company's standpoint than having to legally deal with an individual guy inside the Russian Federation, especially one that hasn't actually sold your business a product at all.

    Anyway, just a few potential thoughts for why tools that do the same job might be preferred by a business, sorry it got a bit long 😅

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    Just because someone was born in Russia does not make them a specific type of person. Nobody chooses where or when they are born. 7-Zip has been for ages, and if something were to happen to it then im sure one of the dozen of forks around will take the role as the "main one". However you are right, companies desire something predictable, stable. Which is why some companies like SUSE, Red Hat, etc. Manage to sell FOSS. in fact i believe some of these distros include p7zip, and they freeze it to a specific version, security updates and bug fixes are backported.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    I like WinRAR for its built-in parity functionality. You can achieve similar results with 7-Zip using PAR2, but having it built right into WinRAR with two options (add a recovery record to each archive, or create separate recovery archives (basically what PAR2 does)) is so much more convenient.

    WinRAR is like what..? 30-35 bucks? That's per user, unlimited machines, lifetime license. More than fair I'd say.

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    [–] 75 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    "Embrace tar.gz 7zip, son!"

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Why is there rarely a mention of 7zip?

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    [–] 75 points 3 years ago

    Well at least someone's gonna make money from WinRAR users

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  • [–] 43 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (13 children)

    if you’re on Windows use NanaZip. 7Zip refuses to use modern compression and encryption algorithms or integrate with the new Windows APIs. NanaZip is a fork that does just that.

    https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip

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  • [–] 46 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Interesting. About a month ago I joined the elite club of WinRAR licence owners.

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    [–] 45 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Well, good that Windows now has native RAR support.

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    [–] 36 points 3 years ago* (10 children)

    the only reason anyone still uses this shit is ignorance

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    [–] 35 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    However, from a practical perspective, deceiving users into performing the required action shouldn't be overly challenging, and given the vast size of WinRAR's user base

    Excuse me, but "vast" size of WinRAR's user base? I didn't know WinRAR even had any users left.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    9 out of 10 people I know use WinRAR. It's amongst the very firsr software they install at fresh start.

    I myself also just changed to 7-Zip around... I don't know, a year ago?

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Which part of the world is this, if you don't mind me asking? (just genuinely curious, cause I haven't come across any WinRARs in the wild here in NZ, most folks I know use either 7-Zip or PeaZip).

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Am in the US and used winrar for a long time as it was integrated into Usenet binaries as rar files. It was embedded with some other software.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Well, even FAR manager which they've open-souced long time ago is still maintained 😀 Good thing they didn't discover this bug in 2000s!

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    [–] 24 points 3 years ago

    It's what we get for not buying it XD

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  • It's been like at least 5 years since I've seen a rar file.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (14 children)

    PeaZip is GOAT software. Truly amazing.

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