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[–] 147 points 3 years ago (36 children)

I only use it because there's no way I could convince my friends and family to move to anything else.

There's no point in switching to another app if I then literally couldn't communicate with the people I need to through it.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 years ago* (12 children)

    I've been using Beeper a month or two. They had a long waiting list, and initially it was subscription only, but they are working on smashing through the waiting list and have changed to a freemium model where you get it for free and (eventually) they will have extra features for subscribers.

    Basically, it's one chat app that connects to lots of different chat services.

    If you're technical, the app is a fork of Element, and the service uses matrix bridges to connect to different chat services, but it's all presented in a (somewhat) polished way. The wait list is because they are still struggling with scaling and quirks but if you're on Lemmy you're probably already well familiar with putting up with this.

    It covers heaps of chat networks. Whatsapp, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, Signal, Telegram, and more. It also will let you SMS (unlike Signal 😬).

    You can also connect to Matrix rooms but you don't seem to be able to connect to an existing Matrix account (it uses a Beeper matrix account to connect).

    It doesn't do video/audio calls so they recommend you leave the original app installed and disable message notifications (but leave on call notifications) if you use this.

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    [–] 127 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Wait until you hear how many people use facebook messenger.

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    The thing it's missing the most is better multi device support and an updated desktop client.

    For me, I think Matrix is more complete (specially since it backs-up your chats and media encrypted). The only thing it's lacking (at least Element specific) is encrypted chat search support on mobile.

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    [–] 71 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    I wish people would stop using the Crowder meme template.

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    [–] 66 points 3 years ago (24 children)

    Eh, whatsapp isn't ideal and its owner is one of the big devils of today, but it's the only way to send and receive instant messages among billions of people. I despise it, but it's the only way I can contact people. Needless to say, they don't give a single flying fuck about privacy.

    Whatsapp outages make people migrate to Telegram for 1-2 days at most, nobody ends up staying there. Signal? I've only ever met three other people in RL who have even heard of it, and I work in IT.

    A more apt comparison would be to languages. Whatsapp is english: clunky, weird, full of nonsense, but it's what "everyone talks". Signal would probably be lojban or esperanto.

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    [–] 50 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    SMS is IE, Whatsapp is Chrome, and Signal is Firefox. Use Signal/Firefox.

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    [–] 47 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Chrome is the Internet Explorer of the browsers.

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    [+] 45 points 3 years ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 45 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Look, I hate Facebook just as much as the next guy. But I live in The Netherlands and it's the primary way I can contact literally everyone I know. So changing to another messaging app is hard here.

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    [–] 43 points 3 years ago (15 children)

    Fuck Steven Crowder and any meme based on his bullshit

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    [–] 43 points 3 years ago

    Steven Crowder is the wife abuser of the meme world.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Nah. SMS and iMessage are the IE of messaging. Unsafe and locked in.

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    [–] 37 points 3 years ago (21 children)

    signal and telegram are so much better, don't know why we can't get over that shit app

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    [–] 36 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    In some countries like India, people just assume that everyone uses whatsapp. It's gotten to the point where whatsapp has become the definition of messaging (for most people).

    I don't see how Whatsapp is outdated to the point where one would compare it to IE, but I'll say whatsapp is more like Google Chrome than IE.

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    [–] 32 points 3 years ago (1 child)
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    [–] 29 points 3 years ago

    Except it does nearly everything any other messaging app does, so there really is no need to force a switch. Unlike Internet Explorer, that used outdated rendering engine making it both slow and buggy, it was unsafe as it used ActiveX, didn't support ad-blockers it actually broke or didn't open most new website.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago* (26 children)

    I hope that the DMA gets passed in the EU. It'll (hopefully) break the monopoly worldwide

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    [–] 28 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    WhatsApp seems very conservative with adding new features. I generally feel the features they do decide to add are all pretty useful. Telegram on the other hand doesn't ever seem to slow down with the new features. Many of them seem great, but just as many I would never use. I'm still wondering why Telegram won't introduce end-to-end encryption as a default.

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    [–] 26 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    Its privacy is very questionable, but how is it outdated?

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    [–] 23 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Op thinks only the USA exists apparently

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    [–] 21 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Can we further compress this meme template to the point that nobody could possibly tell it's Stephen Crowder in it

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    [–] 19 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    I'd say Viber is worse (unbearably slow, has ads), and it's the most used messaging app in Ukraine which just sucks. (basically everyone has it)
    people are slowly switching over to Telegram but it still has less then 50% market share...

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    [–] 19 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I never have any problems Whatsapp. My messages get sent and I receive messages no problem.

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    [–] 16 points 3 years ago (14 children)

    Matrix or Signal only for me. nobody uses Whatsapp here in the states, sms is simply insecure in every way, and telegram has very suspicious roots imo, along with a lack of e2ee and a terrible ui.

    signal is the most secure option and matrix is federated making it the most "open" option.

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    [–] 16 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Whatsapp is still supported

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    [–] 15 points 3 years ago (22 children)

    I’ve somehow never used WhatsApp.

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    [–] 15 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Someone has not used Line...

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