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[–] 261 points 2 years ago (31 children)

the media:

we'll stop naming school shooters due to copycat killers

also the media:

his name was thomas matthew and here's a 90 minute special about his preferred breakfast cereal

👀 👀 👀

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  • [–] 109 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    If this encourages these psychos to stop shooting children and shoot politicians instead, I'll take that trade.

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  • [–] 98 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Did the media ever really say they'd stop naming school shooters??

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    The media is not one thing. Media is plural. Good luck getting "the media" to agree on anything.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I guess they made the call that releasing this information is the lesser of two evils, the other one being to withhold it and to let speculation run wild in a heated political climate, in which one side is not shy about threats of violence.

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    [–] 147 points 2 years ago (46 children)

    The more we know, the more this looks to me like a suicide by cop that wanted (and failed) to leave a huge thing done so people remembered him.

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  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago (29 children)

    Which is definitely why the media is posting his picture and personal details everywhere right? To make sure other people aren't persuaded to seek fame in the same way.

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago* (22 children)

    The guy tried (and almost managed) to kill an ex-president and candidate for a second term. Of course the media is going to cover all the shit they can. It gives them clicks and that's all that matter.

    On the other handl, apparently, the guy had some mental health issues was bullied and honestly, what other outcome can you expect if not a very fast death when you try to do what he did in the way he did it?

    Either he was out of his mind and was completely delusional, or was trying to leave the world with a huge kill in his name to be remembered.

    Edit: typo

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Here is my irresponsible speculation: kid did it to get back at his dad. Dad was a republican flying trump signs in the yard, mom is registered democratic. Kid grows up wearing hunting outfits to school, trying to get on the shooting team, getting bullied (even after that time he tried to fit in by getting on the antitrump bandwagon following j6), trying to be the version of manliness his conservative father believes in, seaking his father's approval, and paying the price socially with his peers. But as much as he tries, and fails, to get dad's approval, mom is always there for him. Mom is a dem, probably secretly, with dad forcing strict "traditional" family roles (hence the signs in the yard, mom probably didn't agree with but was powerless to stop). Kid seems to fit the stereotype of young man, bullied in school, working a dead end job, few if any friends, no future to speak of, just generally mentally unstable, ripe for suicide by cop alreadt. Then something happens, dad hits mom, dad cheats on mom, dad screams at kid calling him a loser and also yells at mom for rasing a mommas boy, something like that. Kid snaps, betrayed by his father again, but also protective of his mom who was always there for him. Kid decides rather than killing his dad (either because of unshakable childhood fear, or a desire to cause more pain to his father then death would afford), he would kill something his dad loved more than anything, more than his dad loved his mom, and especially more than his dad loved him. He'd kill dad's god king Trump, and go out along with him. His dad would lose his hero, and the world would know his dad was responsible because he failed as a father, and thus his father would be the greatest traitor to the Maga movement ever.

    I base this on no evidence other than the couple of facts we know about voter registrations and the yard signs and the like. Again this is just my speculation, which it is completely irresponsible to engage in right now (fun though!).

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  • [–] 121 points 2 years ago (22 children)

    ITT: Look at the parents, this kid was just rebelling!

    Press X to doubt

    Or… He was a conservative that saw MAGA as the existential crisis that it is. He decided that he had nothing left to lose. He went for it.

    Let’s be real here. The only shame was that he missed.

    I think he died for a cause. But that could just be my bias showing.

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  • [–] 70 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    I just want to go back in history and ask at what point people would've considered it appropriate to use political violence against someone like Hitler, or was it never okay? Like was it post first coup? Post second coup? After invading Poland? Did they need to wait for gas chambers? I'm curious when public sentiment shifted.

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    I feel that everyone should resist the urge to act like psychics or psychologists right now. We know far too little at this point to speculate on this kids state of mind before or during the shooting.

    As we learn more, perhaps that will change, but - and this is the terrible truth - we may never know. and we’re ALL going to have to learn to process and move on from this either way.

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    [–] 96 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Makes sense, most shooters show warning signs.

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    [–] 77 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    This guy looks like a dorkier HP Lovecraft

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    there have been pro-Trump signs on display in the yard of his family's home.

    Is a much different message than "signs in his yard." Don't worry though, I'm sure all of the kid's life is being scrubbed by every agency in America and in sixty years we'll know why he really did it.

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    [–] 59 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    It is crazy how missing one shot could have changed the course of history. People are really trying to paint this guy as a leftist because of a donation lol.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Do records show that he donated to a progressive PAC? I thought they show a person with the same name donated but that the age was different

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Look at the timing - Jan 20th, 2021. The day Biden was sworn in.

    $15 is not much and could very well be him delivering on a bet over the election

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Wasn't that $15 from a 69 year old veteran with the same name?

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Who’s seen the new season of the boys

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