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[–] 284 points 2 years ago (38 children)

shouldn't the federal minimum wage apply to everyone who is doing work in the US? This seems like fraud

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  • [–] 124 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    how would you distinguish this from regular outsourcing

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  • [–] 207 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Outsourcing is the problem.

    The owners take advantage of our commons, tear up our roads, and succeeded because of domestic infrastructure, only to refuse to pay full price for labor and allowing even those wages, in lieu of the taxes they bribe our government to enact loopholes to dodge, to "trickle down" domestically as their always bullshit yay market capitalism talking points lied?

    It's absolutely clownshoes that outsourcing labor/manufacturing is allowed, not because of domestic shortages for a skill, but to explicitly pay pennies on the dollar for the employees you need and screw the country you don't want to pay taxes to despite record profits even harder.

    It's insane. But we let the owner class dictate whatever they want here, and our well bribed government will even sell it for them by calling it "something something freedom" while never mentioning social consequences, accountability, or responsibility. We aren't so much a country as a piggy bank and cudgel for the global owner class.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago

    That the neat thing, you don't.

    Here, for certain industries (might be all but I don't have first hand accounts of that), the contractors must make sure that the companies/freelancers they employ pay their taxes, otherwise, they are on the hook for it.

    Do the same. If a company outsource work, they should prove that they pay the same as they would in their region, and if it not, be hit hard by fines and/or jail time.

    But one can only dream I guess

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    [–] 153 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I would just unplug the camera and computer. Every day. Even if I wasn't buying anything.

    Fuck this business.

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    [–] 142 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Boo for OP who didn't name and shame

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  • [–] 65 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    https://nypost.com/2024/04/09/us-news/nyc-restaurants-use-zoom-cashiers-from-philippines/

    adding that she splits tips with her manager and kitchen staff at the restaurant.

    They don't even let her keep her entire tips. The whole situation is fucked. Somebody mentioned in the article also brought up a great point...

    “Today, this is a Filipino woman behind a screen, controlling a POS system — but it’s not crazy to believe that probably in the next six to twelve months, this could be an AI avatar doing all the same things,” he said.

    What a shitty future we have.

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    [–] 125 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    this should be straight up illegal.

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    [–] 109 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    At that point why even have a cashier? Just put a POS and have people swype to enter like a subway.

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    [–] 76 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Good thing they build a wall so these mean immigrants are not stealing jobs.

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    [–] 72 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    This shit has got to be outlawed. Companies are doing this across the board. Literally skirting labor laws, outsourcing jobs that should be going to us citizens, all to just continue pouring more money into the tops pockets. When will we have all had enough?

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    It's a simple enough solution in this case. They are performing the work of employees, so for all intents and purposes, they are employees. They are directly interacting with US customers at a physical location within the US. Their place of work is that physical location, even if they are not physically present. They need authorization to work in the US, and the minimum wage laws applicable to that location applies to these workers.

    All that is missing is the lawsuit under existing labor laws, which they will probably lose.

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    [–] 70 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I would not shop here. If I saw this, I would turn around and walk out. Go somewhere that they value work.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    BuT nO oNe WaNtS tO wOrK aNyMoRe

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    BuT nO oNe WaNtS tO wOrK aNyMoRe

    :D

    Obligatory -

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    [–] 65 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This feels cyberpunk. Some netrunner will hack the system and give free meals away because fuck the corpos, right?

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    [+] 52 points 2 years ago
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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (25 children)

    Are there movements in the US or globally to force all business into worker coops? Unions are good but I think this is their ultimate limitation, that employers can just offshore their jobs

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    [–] 49 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Having no actual person guarding your business is a recipe for theft. If this catches on it will be so much easier to steal from places. I'm ok with this

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Unplug the display & camera, get meals for free?

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    [+] 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Japanese Fried Chicken? JFC

    Looks like this is "Japang". Terrible reviews online and described as actually a "ghost kitchen".

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Ah yes, it's the minorities who are stealing jobs. Not the lack of regulations blocking corpos from outsourcing work.

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Working as a graphic designer in the US since the early 2000's, every employer I ever worked for eventually used Fiverr to pay someone overseas a fraction of what they paid me to do the same work. This doesn't seem meaningfully different.

    Not saying this is okay, just that it's not even remotely (no pun intended) a new problem.

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I’m honestly surprised the corps haven’t done this to all of their drive-thrus.

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Theyre stealing our jobs without even being here! /s

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What happens when you join the zoom id listed?

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