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[–] 181 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (47 children)

That whole video, and the follow-up, were incredible. I used to trust LTT quite a bit, but after the video, I've just chunks of respect for LTT. Dunno if i can ever trust them.

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I work in the tech industry. I work for an A tier company that makes servers, storage and more. I cannot imagine fucking up a benchmark/performance characterisation chart THIS badly even for an internal presentation.

I have spent hours double checking and re-running tests to ensure I'm getting the right numbers.

And to see a channel as big as LTT goofing up numbers so badly, which have the potential to affect thousands of purchasing decisions, i can't even.

We also work with vendors, who sometimes send hardware prototypes. And we can never be THIS unprofessional to them.

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  • [–] 127 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    I will say this, and some may consider this my hot take; I feel like Linus needs to step back from responding to community feedback as well. I get that it's his company and he probably feels responsibility to respond, but he does not respond well to criticism. The biggest tell on how his employees feel was Luke's face during the video. It was obvious even without him saying anything that he knew the hot take response was not going to turn out well. These situations are part of being a CEO not an owner and Linus needs to show that he trusts the new CEO enough to respond accordingly. Linus continues to handle this problem in the exact wrong manner when he shouldn't be handling it at all m

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  • [–] 56 points 3 years ago* (10 children)

    I'm somewhat conflicted on the entire matter. I felt like their quality was slipping for some time and it's been difficult to watch them.

    Linus has handled almost every community crisis extremely poorly because when under pressure he gets defensive and speaks without thinking often pouring gasoline on the fire.

    At the same time I can understand his motivations as the livelihoods of his now very large number of employees depends on it.

    I think if LTT had responded officially and earnestly to the criticism addressing and laying out of roadmap for remediation it would have bought a lot of goodwill. I think Linux needs to be removed from LTT public relations but I don't think that will ever happen.

    Truly a sad day, glad we have GN

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    [–] 110 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Is Gamers Nexus finally getting the respect they deserve?

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    [–] 102 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Too large, corporate burdens. Ltt needs to slow down. Quantity over quality not cool.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago

    Yes I think this was the main point that Steve kept coming back too. Moving too fast. And not focusing on accuracy and quality. LTT realistically has always been much more about entertainment. And I still watch them for that. Gamers Nexus Etc has always been where you go if you want the straight dry news and facts with as little opinion thrown in as possible.

    Linus has a vision of what he wants to become. And I am there for it. There's undeniable possibility and niche for what they want to do. But it relies on being methodical, accurate, and focused. Several things they've been owning themselves on for a while. It can be fixed. But I think George Harrison put it best.

    It's gonna take patience and time, mmm To do it, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it To do it right

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  • [–] 89 points 3 years ago (22 children)

    I honestly never got his channel. Does Linus actually have a tech/engineering background which makes him an authority on this stuff? Watching his videos leads me to believe that he doesn't. He gets basic shit wrong way too often.

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  • [–] 112 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Linus is both knowledgable and a good entertainer. The problem is he's grown from a casual reviewer to running a 100+ employee business, pumping out multiple videos a week with his face on it - He simply cannot possibly know anything about the product besides what's on the script.

    When he is interested in something, it really shows. The way he talks about the LTT Screwdriver or the Framework laptop for example almost never even has a correction, let alone errors. Linus just has no ability to upscale that quality.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago

    I think it's even more what GN has highlighted: They try to go from entertainment first to hard facts and data. It's very clear that they have not thought this through completely.

    Yes, some of their testing solutions are very sophisticated, but there are definitely problems on the management side of things. This seems very much like a structural problem. Communications goes horribly wrong in multiple ways, including errors not being corrected properly. Errors appear very frequently and the employees themselves question the quality of their videos.

    Linus himself claimed that he had to improvise a workshop with employees, because they lacked training for what they were supposed to do. Furthermore that he substantially changed things on the fly, because they were garbage from his POV. All of this indicates bad management, but not learning from mistakes and making the exact same ones again proves it.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago

    This is horseshit, no offense; Linus straight up says he's not interested in doing it right as it's cost $1-500... Which is nothing to them.

    He's a sales sleeze semi-technical media nerd that is at best a good entertainer.

    He chooses not to enforce quality.

    LTT is entertainment. Not news or credibly fact based.

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  • [–] 51 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    He's does not have a technical background and he's said as much, gaming and computers are just a passion for him.

    He's an entertainer, not an authority. But he speaks so passionately it's easy for a non-technical person to believe he's an authority.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    He's honestly just jayz2cents with better marketing.

    Except Jay is usually pretty honest and upfront about how little he knows, which now makes him miles better than Linus "I definitely benchmark better than tech jesus" sebastian.

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    [–] 84 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed are the only channels I would watch for new PC part reviews. They don't hide or glance over any details for the sake of entertainment and your attention. If I'm spending $700+ on a product I want to know exactly what I'm getting, Not a quick rundown that skips over details that could be potential deal breakers. Glad to see them get the attention they deserve after all this controversy.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Just like you said. I only watch gn before purchases. They're so damn dry and boring I just skip it wholly and fully otherwise.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago

    That's understandable. I find them genuinely entertaining, Especially their presentation coverage videos but their long-winded style isn't for everyone. I just prefer in-depth content.

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    [–] 79 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    I couldn't believe the story about the water block.

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  • [–] 45 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    "we did what we did because no matter what the temps are, we thought it was so expensive that none of our viewers should come away from this video wanting to buy it"

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  • [–] 54 points 3 years ago (15 children)

    For reviews sure, for entertainment? Sets me to sleep tbh

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    [–] 38 points 3 years ago*

    After the sewer explosion at LMG today I truly felt Gamer Jesus is really coming forth as a messiah.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago

    Tech Jesus for data. LTT for infotainment.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 years ago

    Lienus Theft Tips

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (1 child)
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    [–] 25 points 3 years ago

    🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago

    Tech nerd Jesus has arrived.

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