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Ghost of Tsushima buyers of blocked countries will be reimbursed (programming.dev)
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[–] 188 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

dsfgasfsaf

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  • [–] 78 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Valve support has historically been pretty awesome. They even replaced an index controller nearly a year out of warranty. Granted their controllers have a shit switch and they break after a few hundred hours, but good on support for being bros.

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  • [–] 87 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    dsfgasfsaf

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  • [+] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Not gonna defend corporations here, but valve isnt public. They are privately owned by the bosses and employees, valve has one of the lowest turnover rates in the industry. It is quite difficult to get a job there for that reason. So they are actually quite beholden to their workers.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    All public corporations, private ones can be run by a benevolent leader.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    At least until the leader gets corrupted by the power if there is enough of it. Then they become not so benevolent

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hence the use of the word "can" and not "are"

    Valve wouldn't exist at it is if it was public and might not exist as it is if it wasn't for Newell (and I say that as a person that's very critical of Valve, they're still very far from how bad they could be considering their position)

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    • [–] 120 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    (Top post on c/source_memes)

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    • [–] 94 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Steam doing the right thing while Sony continues to be incredibly stupid.

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The miracles you can perform when you don’t have shareholders.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    It's not shareholders specifically, but management that doesn't give a shit about the company long term.
    The business has a fiduciary duty to benefit the shareholders, but it doesn't have to be short term only, or at the cost of long term benefits.

    Most publicly traded companies end up with leadership who are only interested in justifying their employment through the next earnings call or making sure the stock price has gone up between when they last got options and when they next vest.

    Valve does good not because they don't have shareholders, but because their leadership is not gonna get fired for thinking about next year instead of next quarter. So they don't squeeze the consumers for every dime, so people stick with them, and developers stay even though their fee schedule is not the best because they have all the people.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    This is kind of true. But the leadership often answers to the board of directors, which have often been shareholders that buy into control of the company after it goes public. At this point, you have shareholders who own no personal stake in a company. Often their only goal is to make a profit, sometimes they're "serial entrepreneurs" who make their millions getting on boards and "flipping" the company to make a huge profit in a short amount of time.

    So it's kind of management, but it's also management brought on by the presence of public investment in a company.

    Combine this with the fact that the law has come down more than once on the side of choosing options that make the company money over maintaining company policy and you get a really terrible culture of publicly traded companies gouging themselves for short term profit (or even long term profit done in a shitty way.)

    Oh, I realize I repeated some of what you said. But you did say "it's not about shareholders" to be contrarian, then went on to explain (like I did) how it's actually exactly because of shareholders.

    Edit: what the fuck I literally can't comment on the comment below.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I wasn't actually trying to be contrarian, but okay.

    I'm pretty sure I didn't explain how it's actually shareholders, because the board of directors isn't "the shareholders", but leadership of the company.

    Valve isn't publicly traded, but it's still a corporation with shareholders, a board of directors, and the usual trappings of corporate leadership. They tend to operate in a not shitty way because their leadership isn't interested in sacrificing greater long term profit for lesser short term profits.
    A private, family owned partnership style business can operate with a focus on short term profits over long term profits.

    The safest way to ensure that the leadership of both of those businesses out as much money in their pockets as possible is to continuously maximize short term profits. "The shareholders" aren't the cause for that mindset.

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    • [–] 77 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Sony really shooting themselves in the foot.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Image

    I love this green text because valve really just be doing the bare minimum most of the time but everyone else is just so shit in comparison

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I feel like GOG deserves at least some respect. They don't have a perfect track record, by any means, but I find them at least reliable, decent sales, have gotten some fun freebies out of them in the past.

    And, hey, shopping cart. Which shouldn't be a selling point, I'm fucking flabbergasted that it came to this on any platform, but that's another point above EPIC.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I can't wait for the inevitable clusterfuck from Sony making PS+ sub mantatory to play their PC games online.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't think they're that dumb, I can see them making their own launcher with PS+ sub to get free games or something like gamepass, but locking online play behind a paywall on PC sounds too braindead even for them, it'd be an even worse PR suicide attempt than Epic's exclusivity shenanigans.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    "We're still learning"

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Sony: we make so much money selling these games to a giant pc audience;

    Also Sony: what if we restricted them geographically a huge amount and require them to go through extra steps so we can (???) which allows us to (??? + Harvest data)?

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Wait, Ghost of Tsushima is available for pc?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It is on the 16th, but you've been able to pre-order for a while. It's pre-order folks that are getting refunded.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nice, been wanting to play that game for a while now.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just note that a PS account is required to access the MULTIPLAYER section of the game but as far as everyone is concerned singleplayer doesn’t require one.

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